SobeysBags t1_jbf1xsc wrote on March 8, 2023 at 4:16 PM

Reply to comment by BackItUpWithLinks in Are Maine taxes as bad as people say? by SameProfession254

Except I didn't say "in line", I said above and beyond. Also even without healthcare, many states with sales and income tax are more than many countries. It's the states with no sales tax or income tax that bring the average down in the USA, as this does not consider property tax, fees for services, and other forms of taxation not normally calculated in international stats. One of the issues with a such a huge country with many levels of govt, it's hard to see the price you pay on the ground as a regular person.

BackItUpWithLinks t1_jbf3y3l wrote on March 8, 2023 at 4:29 PM

> Except I didn't say "in line", I said above and beyond.

I’d like to see the math that says when you add all of it up, the US is paying more.

I keep seeing that many other countries have universal healthcare and the US has to pay so “the US pays more for healthcare” but that ignores that they also pay 45-50% tax and VAT.

So if you’re going to claim the US is more expensive, compare apples:apples and show the math.

SobeysBags t1_jbf66c1 wrote on March 8, 2023 at 4:43 PM

Most countries with universal healthcare are not paying 45-50%, that is really only a few countries that also have huge safety nets and public services well beyond healthcare (not to mention the Americans spend more on healthcare costs than other country on earth). If you want to show the math state by state and country by country, you better sit down and pay some tuition. When you are paying 6-15 GRAND in healthcare premiums each year, you better believe no one in other countries have this burden. No one moves to the USA to escape taxes or reduce their tax burden, it just doesn't happen. Personally speaking, I have lived in about a half dozen other countries (although I am one person, and this is purely anecdotal), the USA is one of the highest burdens with regards to taxes and income reduction I have encountered. This nonsensical American exceptionalism, where we can't compare it to any other country, because "apples and oranges" is a defeatist attitude, and a flight from the reality on the ground.

BackItUpWithLinks t1_jbf7djg wrote on March 8, 2023 at 4:51 PM

> Most countries with universal healthcare are not paying 45-50%, that is really only a few countries

Finland
Japan
Austria
Denmark
Sweden
Belgium
Israel
Netherlands
Portugal
Ireland
Spain
Germany
UK
France
Australia
Greece (44%)
Italy (43%)…

I posted the link. I’m not sure what more I can do.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/highest-taxed-countries

You keep typing words back at me. Why won’t you back up your claim? Post info on how the US spends more when you take into account all taxes.