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SeawolfGaming t1_je2lptk wrote

Reply to comment by AdmiralWackbar in Maine Lobstermen could face new size limits for catch by stewart0077

I know, the way people generalize them is fucked. I live in a lobstering town and most of the people here are lobstermen. The way that people on this Subreddit hate on lobstermen with false information is just fucked beyond belief. Like holy shit I don't think a single one of them has actually met a lobstermen, let alone understand how hard they work every single day.

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AdmiralWackbar t1_je2u9ch wrote

Rule #1 of Reddit, don’t waste your energy arguing with people. They have their opinions and they’re going to stick to them.

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cardiffgiantthe1st t1_je2s072 wrote

They are all from fucking Mass

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SeawolfGaming t1_je2tpy5 wrote

Or from Cape Elizabeth. But what's the difference?

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cardiffgiantthe1st t1_je2u2y5 wrote

Cape Elizabeth via Mass

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sspif t1_jee80p6 wrote

Lol. Most of us are just inland Mainers and don’t know any lobstermen personally. Therefore we judge them from stereotypes and what we read in the news. No doubt this is unfair.

What are the stereotypes? Lobstermen are rich bastards. Lobstering is a closed, “in the family” type industry that doesn’t share the wealth with average Mainers. Lobstermen are belligerent drunks and drug addicts. Lobstermen are grifters who make their living selling revolting prison food to ignorant tourists who think it’s a delicacy. Probably all of this is unfair.

What do we hear on the news? “Lobstermen whine about wind power, say it will destroy industry.” “Lobstermen whine about not being allowed to kill whales, say it will destroy industry.” “Lobstermen rally for LePage, say Mills will destroy industry.” You guys come across as a bunch of whiny, hysterical, selfish motherfuckers in the newspapers. Probably this is not entirely your fault.

If you don’t want to be generalized in this way, express the diversity of your opinions. Organize groups to lobby in favor of offshore wind or whale protections, or to open up the industry and make it less insular and more accessible to people who didn’t grow up in lobstering families. The fact that you are generalized so much is partially your own fault for not showing us your other sides.

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arms_room_rat t1_je2rlwm wrote

My man how many loberstermen are you blowing down on the docks?

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SeawolfGaming t1_je2rrm9 wrote

None, I'm just speaking the damn truth.

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arms_room_rat t1_je2t1nf wrote

Lobstermen aren't some noble group of people that should be free to roam the seas with impunity. It's an important industry and employs a large amount of hard working mainers, but you seem to be idealizing them in a way that is pretty delusional. They are generally pretty uneducated and backwards thinking as a group, they think everyone else should be bending over to accommodate their industry and any effort to regulate is going to "put them out of business", and it's pretty true that they either are pretty wealthy if they are smart with their money or they are crippled drug addicts who do a lot of harm to their community.

I generally think the state should invest in moving away from resource based industries because whether it's global warming or over fishing it's a vulnerable industry and it would be a disaster if it collapsed with no replacement. See the grand banks fisheries in newfoundland or the paper industry in maine.

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Pg9200 t1_je33m23 wrote

The "crippled drug addicts" are often lobstermen who had a debilitating injuries and lost their livelihood because of it. The drugs are an attempt to cope with the lifelong pain. Healthcare unfortunately doesn't come with the job and is neglected.

The few fishermen in expensive trucks that I've met come from wealthy families who don't need to really work. It's more a hobby for them to keep busy.

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AdmiralWackbar t1_je4rt5g wrote

I do find it odd that you have a population people that have been negatively impacted by the opioid crisis, but there seems to be little to no sympathy for them. Yet, you see plenty of sympathy towards other groups of people.

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SeawolfGaming t1_je2t9db wrote

You speak a lot of words, but none of them are true. Get your head out of your ass and look at fucking reality.

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arms_room_rat t1_je2tb75 wrote

I know reading is hard.

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SeawolfGaming t1_je2tf9h wrote

Reading isn't hard, you just don't speak the truth. I'm done with your bullshit. Kindly go fuck yourself.

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Attackcamel8432 t1_je5nesc wrote

I gotta say you aren't really changing anyone's opinions on how lobstermen act by going hard into the stereotype...

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