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AmericoDelendaEst t1_je7g1dq wrote

It's the dumb guy version of stoicism. The kind that macho dudes love, but they conveniently ignore the parts about virtue and civil obligations.

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ManifestDestinysChld t1_je7gqw6 wrote

A fun thing to do with those dudes is to get them talking about the Spartans (it's easy), and then bring up how they were enthusiastically homosexual, to say nothing of being the classical world's most notorious pederasts.

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