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[deleted] t1_jd5vqck wrote

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TravellingTransGirl t1_jd5yyo9 wrote

The study you provided on vaccination's impact on transmission suggests to continue masking...

"Thus, the current evidence suggests that current mandatory vaccination policies might need to be reconsidered, and that vaccination status should not replace mitigation practices such as mask wearing, physical distancing, and contact-tracing investigations, even within highly vaccinated populations."

Also, the study on masking suggests the results are not concrete:

"There is uncertainty about the effects of face masks. The low to moderate certainty of evidence means our confidence in the effect estimate is limited, and that the true effect may be different from the observed estimate of the effect."

Here is a study from Nature suggesting a positive correlation between masking and reducing respiratory infection rate.

Efficacy and practice of facemask use in general population: a systematic review and meta-analysis | Translational Psychiatry (nature.com)

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MosskeepForest t1_jd5zmmz wrote

Looks like the mods banned me and then muted me so I can't even ask why. Apparently it's "go along with the liberals or be removed".

Congrats fascists.

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FredegarBolger910 t1_jd794rt wrote

Science say viruses are not gaseous. They primarily spread via water droplets. If the infected person is wearing a mask the amount of infectious water droplets they are expelling into the air is drastically reduced

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pinetreesgreen t1_jd64l0u wrote

Your own mask study said the data was bad. Did you read it?

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MosskeepForest t1_jd663w2 wrote

Looks like the mods banned me and then muted me so I can't even ask why. Apparently it's "go along with the liberals or be removed".

Congrats fascists.

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pinetreesgreen t1_jd67ex7 wrote

The data is largely from 2016. Which it states several times. The data from covid wasn't reliable bc the people were not masking with regularity. Which it says several times too. So its a pretty useless study, much like the others you just googled, I suspect.

My family hasn't had much of an issue with covid, thankfully. Vaccines had a lot to do with that I suspect.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd68b62 wrote

Looks like the mods banned me and then muted me so I can't even ask why. Apparently it's "go along with the liberals or be removed".

Congrats fascists.

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pinetreesgreen t1_jd6905m wrote

.... How can you study mask effectiveness on covid virus.... With data from before covid? I thought that was an obvious flaw that would be easy to pick up on. I guess not.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd6aeyo wrote

Looks like the mods banned me and then muted me so I can't even ask why. Apparently it's "go along with the liberals or be removed".

Congrats fascists.

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pinetreesgreen t1_jd6bihh wrote

Under "what did we find?" the author explains they used 78 studies. Only two of which were from covid. So yeah. The data is pretty bad.

You tried.

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FredegarBolger910 t1_jd79boh wrote

Like so many of the anti-mask warriors you are focusing on masks protecting the wearer rather than masks keeping infected people from spreading..

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fishmanstutu t1_jd64hz9 wrote

Awe please tell my transplant team masks don’t work and the vaccine was a joke. Your a fool bro. Sorry your dumbass just can’t see for yourself there was a reason for both to be used.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd65ozc wrote

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fishmanstutu t1_jd6bibf wrote

Except the science is there for transplants and of people who are at risk. Sorry you haven’t had a reason to believe doctors. Yes am I saying they all are great no I am not. But for once try and see something from who it effects not just what you read. Go talk to people who it did effect that’s your science.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd6cryd wrote

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fishmanstutu t1_jd6jh4q wrote

Bro studies by transplant teams ? I am guessing not. See my point you missed is some categories of people do benefit.

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fishmanstutu t1_jd6jhsi wrote

And I live in the woods bro.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd6nmx0 wrote

Looks like the mods banned me and then muted me so I can't even ask why. Apparently it's "go along with the liberals or be removed".

Congrats fascists.

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fishmanstutu t1_jd7bqa0 wrote

Hey enjoy your little cabin. Hope you die out there lol loser

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peppapoofle4 t1_jd5zwsi wrote

Not downvoting, but legit wondering how it can be said that masks are useless.

When we had mask mandates, the transmission rates were lower than other states that didn’t enforce mask wearing. When we had mask mandates lifted, the virus started spreading like wildfire. There has to be some correlation between the two.

That being said, I’m a mask wearer, I use sanitizer, and was fully vaccinated, when I contracted covid. But it was brought into my home by family members who thought masks were a burden to their free-will and they aren’t exactly avid hand-washers.

My first bout of covid is what messed me up and this was before the vaccine was created. My second bout was after being fully vaccinated, during the omnicron variant, and it was much easier to deal with, but I had a horrible reaction to the first dose of vaccine. I haven’t had any boosters.

Either way, my body hasn’t been the same since the virus and every day is a damn struggle.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd60d20 wrote

Looks like the mods banned me and then muted me so I can't even ask why. Apparently it's "go along with the liberals or be removed".

Congrats fascists.

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peppapoofle4 t1_jd61tal wrote

Benzene was the ingredient that is associated with cancer and other health conditions. I use alcohol based sanitizers with aloe and vitamin E.

The virus is mainly transmitted through respiratory droplets. But there is still a chance for surface transmission. Besides, other viruses and illnesses are transmitted through surface contact. I’ve always used sanitizer though. Especially when I was working with the public and often in contact with immunocompromised people.

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ecco-domenica t1_jd66r93 wrote

>The virus is mainly transmitted through respiratory droplets

The virus is mainly transmitted by aerosolized respiratory particles that hang in the air, sometimes for hours.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd62e5n wrote

Looks like the mods banned me and then muted me so I can't even ask why. Apparently it's "go along with the liberals or be removed".

Congrats fascists.

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peppapoofle4 t1_jd6ugq9 wrote

I’m sorry your grandfather passed away from covid. From what I saw, it was really brutal for a lot of people. I have a friend who lost at least four people to it. Another friend lost his aunt and uncle to it. Both died within days of each other. It’s been a bad time for many. :(

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ecco-domenica t1_jd66i05 wrote

The Cochrane study did not come to the conclusions you think it did.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd67hsz wrote

Looks like the mods banned me and then muted me so I can't even ask why. Apparently it's "go along with the liberals or be removed".

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ecco-domenica t1_jd7g667 wrote

Per Cochrane, not enough data from the right kind of studies to make any conclusion.

New York Times, Zeynep Tufekci, March 10, 2023

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/opinion/masks-work-cochrane-study.html

>The debate over masks’ effectiveness in fighting the spread of the coronavirus intensified recently when a respected scientific nonprofit said its review of studies assessing measures to impede the spread of viral illnesses found it was “uncertain whether wearing masks or N95/P2 respirators helps to slow the spread of respiratory viruses.”
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>Now the organization, Cochrane, says that the way it summarized the review was unclear and imprecise, and that the way some people interpreted it was wrong.
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>“Many commentators have claimed that a recently updated Cochrane review shows that ‘masks don’t work,’ which is an inaccurate and misleading interpretation,” Karla Soares-Weiser, the editor in chief of the Cochrane Library, said in a statement.
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>“The review examined whether interventions to promote mask wearing help to slow the spread of respiratory viruses,” Soares-Weiser said, adding, “Given the limitations in the primary evidence, the review is not able to address the question of whether mask wearing itself reduces people’s risk of contracting or spreading respiratory viruses.”.
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>She said that “this wording was open to misinterpretation, for which we apologize,” and that Cochrane would revise the summary.
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>Soares-Weiser also said, though, that one of the lead authors of the review even more seriously misinterpreted its finding on masks by saying in an interview that it proved “there is just no evidence that they make any difference.” In fact, Soares-Weiser said, “that statement is not an accurate representation of what the review found.”

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ecco-domenica t1_jd8u2lt wrote

You know, getting a little cabin crazy isn't uncommon in the woods in Maine in March. Maybe tone the hostility down a bit.

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BKofCountedSorrows t1_jd5vxo2 wrote

Oh damn. ! In this sub..... ? ... Hope you are ready for what's to come. . . Best of Luck. Will you delete before the downvote count hits -50 ?

Edit: You are 100% correct. FWIW.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd5wtzm wrote

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pinetreesgreen t1_jd648pp wrote

The study you cited on masks said the study was inconclusive bc the data was poor.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd67491 wrote

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pinetreesgreen t1_jd6975d wrote

No, the study you cited was bad. As in the one you said reached the conclusion you thought supported your own. When it didn't.

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MosskeepForest t1_jd69xyw wrote

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pinetreesgreen t1_jd6bpzf wrote

In the 76 studies they looked at that were not on covid? Okay. There were two studies on covid. Which they said were unreliable bc people were not using masks regularly. Just like the other data. It's your study. Read it. Under "author's conclusions".

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