Submitted by datasciencepro t3_yz8ljz in MachineLearning
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Submitted by datasciencepro t3_yz8ljz in MachineLearning
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It's not about socialism, it's about how you approach engineering as a culture. Remember Elon asking for prints of diffs and LOC counts? Now he's asking for screenshots of 'salient code'.
One tweet David Ha liked today says "Elon musk told Twitter employees “do actual work or you’re fired” and 85% of the staff left instantly 💀💀💀". That is toxic to say that people who didn't want to put up with this are useless and lazy
Maybe he just likes the drama. Or maybe he wants to bump up the tweet. Can't really know what he thinks from just likes.
Calling out shitty behavior is not ‘canceling’ anything.
Why would you personally care about someone (that don't even know you) liking Tweets? You don't know what he is thinking anyway
What are you trying to do here? Stir hatred? The toxic one is you
Because I follow him and so do many others. When you like something it shows your followers the tweets. And he's a public face of ML on social media so many people will be concerned at his cheerleading.
While most in ML and tech are expressing dismay (e.g Chollet), it is just concerning that he seems to be revelling in what is happening to Twitter engineers (of whom I know a few)
Interesting to contrast the reactions of Chollet (ML library engineer at Google) vs Ha (former Goldman Sachs, 'strategy' guy). Chollet is vociferously speaking about the impacts that will come when you shut down engineering
I'm trying to shine a light where David Ha is likely trying to quietly hide his intentions as a bad actor. And to memorialise what he is doing (so that when the backtracking comes we have evidence of it)
Would one work for him now that we know he is revelling in Twitter engineers being trampled upon?
Welcome to another episode of internet being internet
I must have missed the memo, is Musk a Hitler tier figure now?
What exactly did he do that offends you so much that hasn't been done by countless other people you don't mind? Be a rapacious businessman like most big tech businessmen? Let go of a bunch of Twitter employees like tons of other companies? Charging for bluecheckmarks?
OMG boss fires employees he doesn't like stop the presses this has never happened before in human history!
hurr durr muh toxicity bro
Yeah let’s cancel this guy based on tweets he likes about some crazy drama unravelling before our eyes. Let’s also cancel all the other people liking the tweets for how ridiculous the events are.
By the way strats at Goldman = quantitative modelling + technology (engineering) so you don’t even know what you’re talking about when you bring up his career history - saying “strategy” in quotes.
Guess you don’t need AI when you have mind-reading abilities.
We really need a new sub called /r/MachineLearningGossip. This sub is getting ridiculous. Mods, what does this have to do with machine learning?
In this case it's about Twitter and Elon more than ML. The only link to ML is stalking a prominent person's behavior on social media.
Why do we allow these?
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Not sure whether you replied to wrong comments or not. But I don't follow him or even know him on Twitter.
Sorry, a mistake
Elon is here too, i cant escape this guy. Non-US and no interest in him, but people keeps bringing him up everywhere.
So heartwarming to see sanity in the replies here. Thanks everyone.
Also, David Ha is a warm, loving human being. Great guy. I'm sure no one at his company cares about the tweets he likes, lol, sorry...
Musk is too popular for liking him to provide high quality diagnostic information about a person.
Mods must take down this irrelevant post
Francois Chollet is not the "Tech community", and neither is David Ha.
It's their personal opinion, everyone has their own.
then unfollow him.
After this post, I know I wouldn't work with you
Dude, just get off Twitter and build stuff, stop worrying about social media.
Who? Cares? Who? Cares?
DAWG ITS FUCKING LIKING TWEETS GET A FUCKING LIFE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
You do realize your quoted tweet is sarcasm?
Sure, the whole ML community has to get together and hold a council meeting to debate this issue and then write a formal letter to hardmaru which tells him to stop liking Musk's tweets or else!!
Not sure, if you have understood it, but you can like whatever you want. You can also follow whoever you want. If you don't like hardmaru, because he flushes Musk tweets down your timeline, then just silence or unfollow him. It's your right not to like or follow a certain person, it's not another person's obligation to be liked by you.
Oh noooo!!!!
Anyways…
Now gtfo to some gossip reddit echochamber where you can flame people for disagreeing with you.
„engineers“
I am quite certain most employees at twatter were unproductive because most employees were likely censors.
You sir are the problem here. Stirring up witch hunts on someone from a few likes on Twitter is exactly the kind of antagonistic divisive behaviour that causes so much damage to our society.
> As an ML community it's ethical to call out such behaviour and demand accountability
Oh well if you say so lol
Twitter is a very simple app.
There are companies that run things of Twitter's complexity level but with ten or less engineers. It is perfectly feasible. You may see such things in payment processing, for example.
Then upon that Twitter does lots of analytics for advertising, manipulation/censorship, part of which is a regulatory requirement but most of which is intentional and for the benefit of Twitter's owners and advertisers. That was their major business, and that's why their activity has ballooned.
It's entirely possible to write a small distributed Twitter-like computer program that acts like a mesh network and is user controlled. Many such programs exist and function perfectly, but have not reached critical mass.
Immoral things don't have to be novel for us to write about it but in this case I actually don't gaf what Elon or Twitter do
David is a trump lover so wouldn’t surprise me he would stand with Elon
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Let’s cancel him. We can’t have dissenting opinions. Everyone must be assimilated by the socialist-borg.
Resistance is futile