Cheap_Meeting t1_ist2j62 wrote on October 18, 2022 at 2:32 PM

Sometimes places which are not as good are just as difficult to get into as the good places. They are under the illusion that they only hire the best people, but because they don't know what they are doing their hiring criteria are more or less arbitrary.

suricatasuricata t1_istjakr wrote on October 18, 2022 at 4:24 PM

Yes, I think this is important to realize. Don't confuse the hardness (or easiness) of the interview with how challenging (or not) the actual job would be. After all, it is relatively cheap to make your interview process challenging. It is significantly harder to be an impactful company, hire the right kind of people etc.

Advanced_Ad_3868 t1_istxgia wrote on October 18, 2022 at 5:56 PM

Many say they hire the best, but the places I've been at that were actually the best? They tend to be pretty humble. Dunning Kruger and all that.

master3243 t1_isv7ezg wrote on October 18, 2022 at 11:00 PM

People in ML (of all people) should know that when looking at a crappy metric, the top 3 models are probably crappy models that generalize poorly to the real world dataset.

CactusSmackedus t1_isvki2t wrote on October 19, 2022 at 12:38 AM

Yep. People telling you how exclusive they are, and a shitty interview process (one that seems to amplify noise more than signal) are two really big red flags.

Ocelotofdamage t1_isw67p5 wrote on October 19, 2022 at 3:24 AM

Yeah, talking about how exclusive you are is a bad look. We just try to talk about how interesting the work is and how exciting our initiatives are, that’s way more convincing for the candidates you want anyway.

wintermute93 t1_isx5ctw wrote on October 19, 2022 at 10:43 AM

Right. If your company is wasting time and resources interviewing people only to reject 29 out of every 30 candidates, that's not a problem with the candidates, that's a you problem. Either you're advertising the position wrong or you're evaluating candidates wrong or both.

Ocelotofdamage t1_isxag7u wrote on October 19, 2022 at 11:40 AM

I mean we do reject 29 out of 30 candidates, but that’s just a function of the insane number of applications we have. There’s really not a great way to tell on paper who’s got the skills it takes to succeed in our business unless you talk to them and give them some problems.

babua t1_isvs90p wrote on October 19, 2022 at 1:35 AM

If your interview is designed to fail 97% of interviewees, it's completely truthful to claim that you only hire the top 3% ... ^of^the^people^who^apply^to^you