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autoposting_system t1_j2767up wrote

Then why are there homeless people?

Serious question

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sortaangrypeanut t1_j283fqn wrote

Because these services can only do so much. there are too many homeless people in America and the government isn't doing its best to help them . Anybody saying that it's because the homeless aren't trying to seek help is a liar.

Also, many shelters have been reported to suck lol. There are ppl who would rather sleep in a tent than sleep in a shelter because of the shit that often happens in shelters

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yhnmkkutesdcv t1_j287y15 wrote

Exactly. Mainly Because they can't help everyone

Factor not everyone wants the help or knows too

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Sometimes_Stutters t1_j29h6h6 wrote

Because homelessness (at least in the US) is pretty rarely the result of a lack of money. Largely its based around mental illness, addiction, and disenfranchised youth.

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ironicmurse t1_j28ve16 wrote

This is very much incorrect. Programs such as Housing First and permanent supportive housing have demonstrated that virtually no single person is "unhouseable". Rather, they just need the right housing and right supports to keep them in that housing. Mental illness and criminality are not the problems, sufficient housing and supports for those living with mental illnesses and who have criminal histories is the problem.

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NecessaryPen7 t1_j29b6zm wrote

It's both/(drugs more than criminality), at least initially

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ironicmurse t1_j29da0p wrote

Finland has essentially zero homelessness, yet they have drugs and mental illnesses. The U.S. has nearly 10x the rate of homelessness as Canada, yet they both have drugs and mental illnesses. The differentiators are availability of affordable housing and supports to make that housing work for those with highest needs.

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bluemoss_co OP t1_j276cdy wrote

I’d say most don’t know of these services

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jarofsalamanders t1_j27rxmw wrote

Most do know about them. In fact every homeless person I met while being homeless myself was aware that these services exist. But it's a real lottery thing. Most play but never win. Funds run out fast, women with children, elderly, and disabled people get first priority, there usually isn't anything left after that.

People say help exists and it does, but most people don't get it.

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ironicmurse t1_j28vlm0 wrote

I've worked in the sector, people experiencing homelessness are kept well informed on available supports. Unfortunately they are vastly under-resourced. For example our community has a rent bank but it always runs out, which isn't an issue of awareness.

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sneezingbees t1_j27zicz wrote

I think it’s a mix of people not knowing about the services, not knowing how to access them, and the services being unable to meet high demands

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autoposting_system t1_j27d76d wrote

I mean okay, but that just seems implausible to me. There's got to be some other mechanism at work: an inability to ask for help due to mental issues or something.

But thanks for doing something. Thanks for doing anything at all

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