ficskala t1_j1bk07l wrote
Reply to comment by louekk in LPT: Defensive driving can be summed up in two rules: 1) Be as predictable as you can. 2) Assume everyone else will be unpredictable. by [deleted]
>how do you define predictable driving?
Using turning signals at appropriate times, avoiding changing lanes for no reason, using your brake when engine breaking just enough so your brake lights turn on, so the person behind you knows you're slowing down, using the overtaking lane for overtaking, not the driving lane, etc.
But i'd say turning signals are one of the more important parts, i see too many people turn them on when they're already making the turn, like, what's the point in that, literally none, you're already making the turn, it's obvious you're turning right now, turning signals are meant to notify everyone what you're about to do, not what you've already done
>It's quite a subjective metric
I mean not really, just do stuff that lets others know what you're about to do and what you're doing, and that's driving predictably
louekk t1_j1bk9bk wrote
Yes, but that was not what the post originally said. Also, good luck explaining 'predictably' to every single individual, where language is so open to interpretation. What you might do in a situation might not be what someone else would. That is all I am arguing. Maybe better phrasing for this post would be drive safely, according to the law? But then that's kind of obvious, so why doesn't everyone just do it?
ficskala t1_j1bm0ca wrote
>Yes, but that was not what the post originally said
It literally says "preditable driving"
>good luck explaining 'predictably' to every single individual
They were thought about it in driving school, the wors themselves are there just to remind them of it
>language is so open to interpretation
You're getting philosophicall here, thr point of the post is that they use exact same terminology used in driving schools so people remember it as they were thought when they drove the first time
>What you might do in a situation might not be what someone else would.
Of course not, and i don't expect it, i just let people know what i'm doing so they know what i'm about to do, so they expect it
>Maybe better phrasing for this post would be drive safely, according to the law?
It's not the same thing though, being safe doesn't mean you're predictable, predictability does make you safer, also, this post uses the standard driving school language everyone goes through when learning how to drive, and i've heard the exact same wording in 6 languages, always using whatever word it is for predictable, this is the best phrasing for what the post is trying to say becsuse everyone is familiar with the term, and knows exactly what it means, those who don't, either didn't go to driving school, or have been driving for 20 years already anyways so it wouldn't matter what you told them, they're still gonna keep driving as they've been driving already
louekk t1_j1bm88c wrote
I am sorry, I no longer care for this discussion as it is futile. I feel like you read my words but interpret them your way. Useless post, that's all
ficskala t1_j1bmke6 wrote
>I feel like you read my words but interpret them your way.
You're saying the post uses wrong wording, i'm saying it uses correct wording, and give a reason why
>Useless post, that's all
Yeah, i can agree with this since it's literally thebfirst thing you're thought in a driving school anyways, redundant at best
louekk t1_j1bmtes wrote
yeah, you can argue all you want but we both know that language can be quite a subjective experience, everyone expresses themselves differently, have a nice night/day
ficskala t1_j1bnh9a wrote
>we both know that language can be quite a subjective experience,
Yeah, but not when you're thought what some phrases mean exactly, what is the case here
louekk t1_j1bnpuj wrote
no, look, some people interpret the world differently, they have different risk assessments, reaction times and other factors which all come into play, potentially affecting their JUDGEMENT or the way they play out scenarios in their head. E.g. person A might see doing a specific thing safer as that's what feels right in this scenario, but person B might feel that might not have been the best thing to do, not to mention previous experiences which taught them to do better
louekk t1_j1bo1o4 wrote
so exhibit B may have already been in this situation before, and hence their 'prediction' would be more in line with what may be perceived as correct, on the other hand person A may have never experienced anything like this, potentially affecting the way they approach thw problem. That's just one example of predictability, but you can see how the same definition can apply to various varying concepts.
ficskala t1_j1bocbz wrote
Of course, but predictable driving is a defined term, ask any driving instructor, or educator, they will all be able to list you what is considered to be predictable driving
>risk assessments, reaction times and other factors
None of this changes the fact that when you turn on your right turning signal, people are gonna assume you're gonna be steering to the right, or when your brake lights turn on, it means your car is slowing down
louekk t1_j1bogjy wrote
Okay, I see. I honestly don't drive so I wasn't aware that is an actual term.
ficskala t1_j1bp7cs wrote
Fair enough, but it sounded like you were claiming that it's not a term, not that you didn't know of it, or were ignorant of it
louekk t1_j1bpas7 wrote
My bad, I probably interpreted your wording another way. Thanks
louekk t1_j1bok8o wrote
Also from UK so might have different naming, potentially exactly for the reason that it is easy to confuse
all_the_gravy t1_j1boug8 wrote
Omg just admit your a bad driver! If you need this much clarification on what it means to be predictable while driving you ain't.
louekk t1_j1bp7qt wrote
Stop projecting. This ain't about me. Also I don't drive my guy
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