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thecaspg OP t1_jconttn wrote

Reply to comment by Cykul in Explore the World's Parks like never before with TravelerMap.net: Your ultimate guide to crowd-sourced reviews, photos, and awesome interactive maps. by thecaspg

The team behind the project is super small, just me and my brother. I hope more people will contribute and start adding photos and reviews.

We started with US and Canada. We are planning to cover English speaking countries first and then expand.

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Cykul t1_jcoo0g6 wrote

Okay cool, I was looking at NZ and AUS parks because I want to travel there. Good to know it's on the horizon. I assumed this was a mature service but I see it's just starting out at this stage. Cool concept!

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BernumOG t1_jcp442e wrote

https://parksaustralia.gov.au/

https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/ (for New South Wales)

https://www.parks.vic.gov.au/ (Victoria)

https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/ (Queensland)

https://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/places-to-go/national-parks/ (NZ)

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HardKnoxville00 t1_jcplm3x wrote

My advise is you just advertise your product as is (locations where you do have photos, reviews etc.)

Then add a section where you advertise your product to be (locations where you plan to have photos, reviews etc.)

Just be honest about it and people will understand 💖🕉️

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GayIconOfIndia t1_jcqz97h wrote

All the best :) I checked the park near my home in Assam, India and there wasn’t any information. I hope you guys are very successful in the future :)

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Dalrz t1_jcqoevo wrote

You should reach out to Nancy Bates. She’s a knitter/designer who wrote a book called Knitting the National Parks. She might have some good pictures and reviews to share.

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thecaspg OP t1_jcsrjwq wrote

That's an interesting idea. I'm always worried that people will think that I'm spamming them but I guess no harm in asking :)

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Dalrz t1_jcuv93u wrote

Maybe make the message a little more personal? And go through email rather than DM? I feel like I’d respond better that way at least.

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UnoStronzo t1_jcrh5ci wrote

I love it! I built something similar with Peruvian national parks (polygons instead of points, though) when I was in college. In my case, I used the Leaflet JS library. Keep up the good work!

BTW, you’re missing Yaguas NP in Peru 😅

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thecaspg OP t1_jcsrflt wrote

I've added the missing Yaguas NP :)aying circles because displaying polygons for all parks would require sending too much data. But I've started adding polygons to parks. When you open park details in any Canada park, you will see park boundaries. In the future, I'm planning to experiment to display all boundaries, but that would require extra processing.

I've added missing Yaguas NP :)

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RunningInSquares t1_jcqz8lx wrote

This is a really cool idea! Would love to find ways to contribute! Used to live near one of the ones in Korea so maybe when we go back to visit I'll try to add to this!

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donau_kind t1_jcvb6me wrote

I may be willing to contribute some seasoned web dev hours and local info. DM if interested.

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thecaspg OP t1_jcxhkcg wrote

The project is not open source so would be hard to contribute there. But local info would be greatly appreciated!

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donau_kind t1_jcyszlp wrote

Alright then, good luck. I am afraid my offer was valid only for OSS, but I am sure you guys will make it regardless.

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Frankie_T9000 t1_jcs85tl wrote

Why the link the the US and then the rest of the world? Either its a world map or not surely?

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thecaspg OP t1_jcpkinz wrote

Hard to make website successful only targeting small country.

Also, I don’t really follow the part about corporate BS.

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grafknives t1_jcqgthm wrote

Ok, then it is quite impressive.

HOWEVER! Why dont use chatGPT to generate text for ALL the parks in in the world? This will be ONE TIME work.

I bet you could work it better with programming, but it could be done "by hand".

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Delioth t1_jcqpwop wrote

Chat GPT is incredibly confident and oftentimes plainly wrong, with little way to tell which is right and which is wrong, is certainly part of why

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grafknives t1_jcr0mpp wrote

But in this case the authors NEED some source of information of every park in the world.

  1. Building a community - best, but really really hard. Like, extremely unlikely.

  2. scrapping some data from the net. Easier, but quality and availability of data is less reliable.

  3. use AI. lowest quality, but available ON HAND - here and now.

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Delioth t1_jcvlr9f wrote

When you're giving people information that may be used for e.g. travel planning... It's better to say nothing than to say something factually incorrect.

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grafknives t1_jcx8sva wrote

How can you make sure that open street maps are correct?

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Delioth t1_jcydx79 wrote

You can't, aside from finding corroborating sources. But we've been using things like MapQuest and Google maps for some time now, enough to trust that they're usually correct. Sometimes missing closed roads or doing a weird direction, but by-and-large correct. Chat GPT and such have precisely the opposite though. There's a few times it's correct and they're certainly cool, but it's also as confidently incorrect as that crass uncle everyone seems to have.

But I need you to recognize that "this map tells you there's a road to turn left here but there isn't one" (so you go another hundred feet and turn left) is different from like "experience nature's beauty with the falls and oaks at parkname" when the park has neither of those things. We've a track record that maps are usually pretty correct. There's no such record for AI chatbots, and the evidence we do have shows their flaws.

ETA: I mean, I asked chatgpt to tell me about a state park in my hometown and it's not even close to accurate; it claims it's on a lake (it's not), has a nature center (it doesn't), claims the park has showers (it doesn't), says the park is good for bird watchers because of the waterfowl and herons (which would probably be accurate if the park was on a lake). Gpt got a few things right... in the same sentences it got stuff wrong, often. Why it was named, the size of it, the fact that it has hiking and camping.

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