Submitted by GhostlandHum t3_zav6jq in IAmA

Hi Reddit - I’m Colin Dickey, a cultural historian and the author of several books, including Ghostland: An American History in Haunted Places and The Unidentified: Mythical Monsters, Alien Encounters, and Our Obsession with the Unexplained.

My newest book, Land of Delusion, is now available exclusively on Scribd in ebook and audiobook formats. Land of Delusion explores how fringe beliefs infiltrate the mainstream and what it means for our future. I introduce readers to two particularly bizarre theories gaining traction in the United States and Russia. The first is Tartaria, a great empire that spread across the globe from Russia, only to be destroyed by evil schemers who erased it from the history books. The second theory I highlight is The New Chronologists, a group who claims that history began only eight hundred years ago and that the world was originally dominated by blond, blue-eyed Slavs.

As with other AMAs, I’ll answer the questions that get the most upvotes from the community. Once they’re selected, I will answer as many of them as I can.

And feel free to check out my piece Land of Delusion on Scribd in the meantime: https://bit.ly/ReadLandofDelusion 

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notapunk t1_iyntnqp wrote

If you were to make a recipe for the perfect conspiracy theory (widest adoption) what 'ingredients' would you use?

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Dontbecruelbro t1_iynubl5 wrote

>the world was originally dominated by blond, blue-eyed Slavs.

Why this group in particular?

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GhostlandHum OP t1_iynvmlf wrote

Oh man, I feel like that's asking someone the best way to rob a bank or something... But it's not a bad question--I think there are different kinds of believers in conspiracy theories, but all theories are satisfying some basic psychological need, something that makes the believers feel good about themselves or lets them feel safe or comforted about their worldview, or lets them indulge in problematic views that are otherwise not acceptable in mainstream culture. So I'd work backwards from that? Like what psychological need do you want to tap into? From there, you'd want something that could easily accommodate conflicting evidence, so even things that "disproved" your theory could in fact be made to "prove" it. Lastly, you need something that holds out vague promises but never actually needs to deliver on those promises... like a Nostradamus prediction or an astrology reading or a Q drop, something that allows people to believe it's true even if you don't ever actually prove anything....

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GhostlandHum OP t1_iynwbl1 wrote

This is a great question--because The New Chronology is popular in Russia particularly, and appeals to a specific set of nationalist ideas about the Russian empire, it maybe makes sense that the conspiracy theory would highlight a belief that ethnic Russians--blond, blue-eyed Slavs--were at the heart of all civilization. The Russian Empire is a bit different, historically, from others that we may be more familiar with (say, the British or American empires), because the idea of a Russian empire is inherently multi-ethnic in a way that those in the west aren't. While the British conceived of their empire as one where they were ethnically and racially superior to those they colonized and subjugated, the Russian Empire was always deliberately multi-ethnic, with ethnic Russians just a kind of "first among equals," so to speak (assume that a lot of what I'm saying here is in scare quotes--I'm doing my best to relay what I believe others think and obviously am not endorsing any particular racist or colonial logic myself!). The New Chronology, which is more explicitly racist in its positing that ethnic Russians are at the heart of all culture and civilization, is thus a break from the traditional ways that the Russian Empire has been conceived, and is what happens when you have an empire (in this case, the Soviet Union) fall apart and leave behind only wreckage, with people clinging to increasingly extreme and problematic theories to make sense of what's happening.

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JeffRyan1 t1_iynwlgd wrote

What fringe beliefs used to be commonplace in America but are no longer believed?

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GhostlandHum OP t1_iynwn2f wrote

Yeah, absolutely--I always think that the way we normally think of combating conspiracy theories ("just beat people over the head with facts and truth") doesn't work that well because what conspiracy theories are doing is solving a psychological need first and foremost. So the better way to combat them, I think, is to figure out what that psychological need is, and address that--it's sort of like a methadone treatment, where you kill the need for the drug, and then they abandon the drug and the conspiracy theory on their own.

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GhostlandHum OP t1_iynxhit wrote

A lot! For one, during the colonial period and the American Revolution, there were plenty of conspiracy theories that the British and/or the French (depending on who you talked to) were secretly infiltrating American politics and perverting events. But probably the most commonly held conspiracy theory that has more or less (but not entirely) fallen by the wayside is the fear of Catholics... This was widespread by American Protestants, who felt that Catholics were taking orders directly from the Pope or their priests and that they were infiltrating American culture with an eye towards domination. This persisted well into the twentieth century (JFK had to give a speech saying he wouldn't listen to the Pope if elected president!), though within the last 50 years Protestants on the American right have aligned with Catholics over social issues (abortion, school prayer, etc.) and have largely abandoned that conspiracy theory. (This is something I follow a great deal in my forthcoming book, Under the Eye of Power, that follows the history of American conspiracy theories surrounding secret societies.)

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PeanutSalsa t1_iyo09ih wrote

What is the most convincing material you've ever come across that proves the existence of ETs?

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GhostlandHum OP t1_iyo1aty wrote

Oh, that's a tricky one! In general, my feeling is that the bigger a conspiracy theory is, the harder it is to prove and thus the less likely it is to be true. So, re: Area 51, etc., I have a hard time with that because it seems like there has to be a whole lot of people--janitorial staff, busboys, cooks, administrative assistants--keeping that place running who have no incentive to keep their mouths shut. The bigger the thing is, the more people it takes, the more likely there is to be leaks. So, personally, I find the most convincing stories are the ones that are the most nebulous, the most vague, the ones that don't really posit a whole worked out theory so much as just some unexplained thing. In The Unidentified, my last book, I tried to do as much of a survey of postwar UFO and alien sightings as I could, and the one that I came back to time and time again without a clear explanation is the Socorro, NM sighting by Lonnie Zamora. Precisely because it was weird and inexplicable....

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kale4reals t1_iyo6aza wrote

How do you define a conspiracy theory?

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ForcyBo t1_iyo6lt8 wrote

What conspiracy theory (if any) do YOU believe, or at least believe that there may be some truth to?

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Ball1091 t1_iyoh98i wrote

What’s your stance on where Atlantis is?

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philodendrin t1_iypadh5 wrote

A belief that is based upon shadow evidence, not direct evidence with a pinch of a similar incident or organization whose truth has been revealed.

An example; the government is spreading chem trails. No direct evidence exists that this is happening. However, the CIA did disburse a specific bacteria over an American city once to see if it was effective by being aerosolized.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray

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TrueFakeAdult t1_iyq1fr9 wrote

What's the most insane theory you've heard? You can nutshell it I know how detailed some of these theories can get.

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gattboy1 t1_iyq6koc wrote

Your intro mentions “collecting unusual objects,” which one can assume are physical things.

Are these objects linked to conspiracy theories? Like, say, chem trail detector goggles? 😎 If so, please share tales of some of your prized ones!

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ThisGonBHard t1_iyqtyjm wrote

I'm an gonna give you an question, thought you might not see it this late.

What about conspiracy theories that are true? Stuff like MK Ultra, the Lab Origin for COVID and so on. People were discredited and banned over this kind of stuff, only to be proven true later.

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thebadgeronstage t1_iyquq3q wrote

Mr. Dickey does a great job explaining where this idea came from in his book The Unidentified. I recommend it, if you’re interested in lost colonies/cities like Atlantis, Lemuria, etc…

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greggerypeccary t1_iyqyihn wrote

So do you actually tackle real conspiracies or just easily disproven straw man examples?

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BenjaminHamnett t1_iyr3i68 wrote

Great answer, but I feel like I’ve seen a few real-time examples of core devotees seeing this coming from a distance and using this as the inverse of “lack of proof IS proof” trope. They are hyper aware of anything that’s taking attention away from their cult and say “see, they know were onto them, so they’re trying to distract us with staged events that take the wind out of our sails and make us look silly”

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ritiesrdum t1_iyr686n wrote

Have you encountered any popular conspiracy theory that turns out to actually be pretty fact-based?

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reddit-snorter t1_iyrb3ca wrote

During your research, have you personally come across any strange experiences? And how do you deal with naysayers, and have you had any bad experiences with them?

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factorsofhappiness t1_iz3mr1p wrote

How do you find leads regarding where to find a unique object?

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