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waterinhere2 t1_j8cy071 wrote

Without family, Health is zero

Whats the point of health if you got no one to share it with

People close to you are what truly matters, everything else is zero

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Valdamier t1_j8czd5j wrote

I dunno, that seems a bit binary.

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toodog t1_j8d26bt wrote

Work should be last

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bigedd t1_j8d3ajk wrote

But then oxygen is O too.

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dodexahedron t1_j8d8ppc wrote

And why can't any of those other things be any value other than 0? Why does the number specifically have to be 10000? This is really weird and arbitrary.

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Wheist t1_j8dhe8u wrote

There's no health if you have 0 money on places like the US.

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Esarus t1_j8dhf2f wrote

Why is dreams so low? This post is stupid

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No-Assignment6962 t1_j8di0r7 wrote

Right. So I am doing exercise everyday. At least 20 minutes. This gives me a light feel of the body. Hope everyone have a chance. Like me or so.

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DecalArtist t1_j8di9qc wrote

This is a terrible design, who ranked family and dreams so much further back and placed priority on money and being a slave to work?? Maybe I just don't get it.

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YouDownWithTPP t1_j8dlxw8 wrote

This is dumb. Some people are born with poor health (lifelong illness, physical disability, mental conditions, etc) yet in many cases, they’re able to live fulfilling lives revolving around family, work, etc.

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Nexusaurus t1_j8doz4g wrote

But thanks to the medical system in the US, I need wealth for health so I must work even in bad health to potentially one day afford good health.

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wallmenis t1_j8dpram wrote

One number lower in binary and you got everything else instead. Looks like health requires a lot more effort.

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Threezeley t1_j8dptll wrote

Why is health 1 but everything else is 0? Shouldn't it be 11111

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Quanalack t1_j8ds2om wrote

Work and money over family and dreams. Sad boi

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ChatGPT4 t1_j8dufyu wrote

The trick is all values are inter-dependent. Also, not limited to a binary digit. Obviously, with zero health you are dead. 1 / 10 (decimal!) is not good, I'd say it would be pretty bad ;) But 1.00 as being 100% healthy is awesome and pretty uncommon.

Zero money is not that bad - considering the value can be negative! ;) I wonder if the family can be represented by a negative number. I guess if it's toxic then I'd write it negative, so zero is not the worst.

IDK about work - probably having zero work would be at least boring. Also uncommon. You don't need to have a job to have work to do.

Dreams - it's like the exciting force to "farm" the other stats. It should go first, because without dreams you don't set goals, then the system naturally falls apart without the proper maintenance.

The main point is however obvious, you can have zero everywhere but the health - you can still play, HP = 0 => game over.

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Burnstryk t1_j8dug39 wrote

Health is absolutely number 1, the rest depend on the person. If you've ever had a chronic illness for a while you'll really appreciate what good health means

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Upst8r t1_j8dv10y wrote

I'm getting over COVID. Definitely not wealthier.

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samhk222 t1_j8dv7w7 wrote

1 dream is 10001 and that's seems low if i already have 10000

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LazyLich t1_j8dvf4g wrote

but with zero money, your health will eventually go negative

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joemondo t1_j8dvpa8 wrote

Not only does this do a terrible job conveying anything, what can be made of it is even worse.

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drphungky t1_j8dw31w wrote

Replying to DecalArtist (#1,796,849)

>This is a terrible design, who ranked family and dreams so much further back and placed priority on money and being a slave to work?? Maybe I just don't get it.

The idea is you need what's on the left to succeed at what's on the right. It's not about what you consider important, it's more order of events. So you need health to be able to even be good at your job, you need to be good at your job to make money, you need money to support and let your family grow, and you need a supportive family to actualize your dreams. It's not an alternative Maslow's Hierarchy of needs.

So there is something to be said about family being so far to the right, but anyone who has a family and does not have money will know that in real life it does cause lots of stress. There are plenty of happy poor families and unhappy rich ones so it's not a perfect analogue, but there's at least a decent nugget of truth there that anyone who has tried to find childcare can support.

Dreams is a little weirder because you don't need family per se to fulfill your dreams, but it definitely helps to have health and money (which implies job). If you called family like, "responsibilities to others" it would probably be a good graphic because you need to have a handle on your responsibilities to fully dedicate yourself to your dreams. But in lieu of that wordiness and awkward turn of phrase, family is a decent shorthand for people we have a responsibility to.

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JDBCool t1_j8dyok6 wrote

Replying to drphungky (#1,797,792)

Looking at it from another perspective.

What if "Family" is starting your own, not "family that raised you".

I would NOT want to raise a kid being stressed by money being tight. Like you said, there's poor families that are happy, and rich families that are not.

But not having that money to pay for opportunities/experiences and having them miss out would leave a bad aftertaste if they could not sign up for something like clubs/things they enjoyed. I.e sports.

Like, not being stingy with money but not over spending either. But at least a bottomline would be: at least 1/8th of monthly earnings after tax deduction being used as "disposable" would be a good measure for family spending.

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TheEternalKhaos t1_j8dyrml wrote

Replying to DecalArtist (#1,796,849)

I mean, even in a hunter gatherer society, work just means a different kind of work and money is just... food and shit I guess lmao

Although, if I were to guess it's coz before starting a family, you do kind of want to be financially stable first. It's probably not thought out all too much and is just there for the sake of something filling out the space lmao

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JDBCool t1_j8dz92x wrote

Replying to Salishseahound (#1,797,146)

Looking at perspective of "raising your own family".

Yeah, I can see it. How are you paying for child support.

If it's talking about "family that raised you", it could be wedged between work and money.

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Yue2 t1_j8dzem6 wrote

Angry Alabama noises

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Nytonial t1_j8dzzvy wrote

Replying to ChumoroCat (#1,796,603)

Because you'd be pretty shit at starting a family if you can't feed your kids.

Back in caveman times, replace work for hunting and shelter building, and money with the thing you hunted and shelter you built.

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Nytonial t1_j8e07sw wrote

Replying to Esarus (#1,796,792)

It's not a list of important to unimportant.

It's saying if you don't have what's on the left, it's very difficult to get the next one.

You can't start a family without being able to feed your kids (usually via money obtained by working)

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Nytonial t1_j8e1krp wrote

The amount of people who don't understand the message and trying to interpret it as a number or a list of most important to least important is shocking...

People:

You generally need to be healthy to work.

You generally need to work to have money

You need money (or some form of possessions) to be able support a family, especially starting one and having children to feed/develop.

In most cases people aspire to have a family to fulfill part of their dreams, and to support them. If a family isn't part of your dreams you probably still need the previous 3 to achieve whatever else it is you wish from life.

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maniacalmustacheride t1_j8e3wwc wrote

Replying to TheEternalKhaos (#1,797,937)

In a hunter/gatherer society, most of the time was spent together. Women and men helped gather, though women did the bulk and the food processing. Taking down a large animal was calorie taxing, and there was no refrigerator so meat was a feast time while gathering still happened, and was sorted and stored, and then the group was back together to a) rest after the hunt or b) be a woman and continue the constant maintenance of children, food, clothing, etc.

Like lions, men brought food to buy in to society that was matriarchal. You see it in elephants and deer, younger men/older boys are expected to look after smaller children when the adults are doing the heavy lifting. Society only demands work first instead of family because that’s what’s been sold to you and now you’re stuck in the system. Having a family, having a tribe, biological or not, strengthens the group. If you can hunt and she can fish and I can cook and she can weave, we’re okay, as long as we work together.

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SkippyBojangle t1_j8e5v67 wrote

Saying amongst docs: health is a crown on the well person's head that only the ill person sees.

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garry4321 t1_j8e842m wrote

No offence, but this is the stupidest fucking "motivational poster" I've seen.

All the zeros mean that this person is unemployed, has no money, has no family and no dreams. So sure, health is all they have left. Kinda seems like their life is shit to be honest, and probably want that 1 to be a 0.

So, everyone else who has any of those things, would have more than 0, and thus take away health and there is still a number. Therefore by this posters own logic, you can be completely fine without your health if you still have any of the other things. Hell, just having a job gives you a number that beats having both money and a family?

What the fuck is this garbage?

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TreemanTheGuy t1_j8e8i3u wrote

I've got 0 work, 0 money, 0 family, and 0 dreams. But darn, do I have 1 health.

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Nytonial t1_j8eassy wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,798,530)

I don't think the post is to try and convince you to do that.

Personally, I don't think having kids is in my future, so I'll take the promotion. Not over achieving my dreams though, but to help achieve them.

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[deleted] t1_j8ecsfz wrote

I think the point OP is trying to make is that without good health, you’ll have none of the other things. In other words: prioritize your health so you won’t lose everything else as your health declines.

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obi-jean_kenobi t1_j8ecsov wrote

Replying to Nytonial (#1,798,067)

Family should also include your relations, not just your spouse and kids. Your relations should be a higher priority imo because when you lose your work or your health it is those people who will support you.

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Nytonial t1_j8edt41 wrote

Replying to obi-jean_kenobi (#1,798,805)

My understanding is this just means a family you create, rather than the one you were born into.

And it's not about priority, you can change your family to a better one if they are abusive. This is about moving forward with what you have.

I would put existing family friends before health, but not an absolute requirement (as parentless people can have good health and the others) but your parents do an awful lot to influence whether you develop into a healthy person or not.

Being reliant on family support is not a good place to be. Better than on the streets sure, but being reliant on your parents at age 35 to feed and house you is no way to start having and raising kids for example.

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Zeidra t1_j8efqxs wrote

I uuuuuuuuh have money and dreams, but not the others. How come?

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IJustBeTalking t1_j8efw1s wrote

ppl in these comments dont get that the order should not matter after the 1 that’s the point, once you have health, you can do all those other things in any order

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WolandPT t1_j8ehn50 wrote

0 work, 0 money, 0 family, 0 dreams?? kill me now, I don't need you health!

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cartesian_dreams t1_j8eid32 wrote

Without 1, everything else is only zero because the person who drew it already decided they are 0 with a 1 for health.

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MinnieShoof t1_j8eissw wrote

Replying to DecalArtist (#1,796,849)

Dreams, typically, are one of those things that you get to focus on last, even in a people-centric society. Dreams and self-actualization are suppose to be life goals. People now adays conflate dreams with wants. It's rather sad. But I fully agree about the displacement of work and money above family.

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Cmgordon3 t1_j8ep8vj wrote

Yes, I'll take 10 work please and 100 money

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ppardee t1_j8epj2r wrote

So... work is a higher place value than family?

Frankly, I'd rather have shitty health and an amazing family than the other way around. I guess to each their own, eh?

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AddaleeBlack t1_j8erz2t wrote

A traditional phrase actually considered

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for its meaning and value on reddit?!

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captnmr t1_j8esu9j wrote

Replying to DecalArtist (#1,796,849)

This is a binary representation and money is a proxy for shelter, food, and other basic needs. It’s saying that you need food and shelter before you need family. Likewise, it’s not saying to quit your job and become a gym bro.

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Daddy616 t1_j8ew2fx wrote

The fact that work and money come before family and dreams really bothers me.

Fuck this era of humanity.

Born on a world of abundance then making each other pay to live here.

Having the audacity to carry on the casual saying "you have to earn a living" implying you don't deserve to live here other wise is a monument to how Fucking stupid we all are.

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4354574 t1_j8f0o4t wrote

Replying to Nytonial (#1,798,035)

Yeah. It’s not a hierarchy of values, it’s a hierarchy of needs. As someone with a lot of health struggles who spends all their money on healthcare, yeah, I have no family, no 'career' and can’t pursue my dreams.

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DifferentRegular4549 t1_j8f1i5w wrote

Replying to maniacalmustacheride (#1,798,264)

We evolved family/social dynamics to facilitate "work" (i.e. not starve or die of exposure) not the other way around though.

The problem with the modern economy based on currency and exchange value is we are alienated from our labor as well as the traditional sorts of family units that our brains evolved to thrive in. Not that the world demands work first - because that's always been the case, the world is a hard fucking place.

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YouDownWithTPP t1_j8f7jl7 wrote

Replying to 4354574 (#1,800,385)

I am sorry to hear that. Hence why I said “many”, but I know very well it’s not all. I don’t know to what degree you are struggling, nor do i claim to understand anyone else’s experience, but I have 2 disabilities that are slowly pushing me to the periphery of life’s edge (socially, financially, etc.) and it is really difficult.

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Gnemlock t1_j8f7n5p wrote

The order of pretty much everything else bar health is a bit demotivating. Lol.

Without work there is no family.

Without wealth there is no dreams.

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MeMeMenni t1_j8f8eeu wrote

A lot of people saying it's a terrible design, but it's not stairs where family comes after money. All it's saying is that if the health is gone, it'll be very difficult to enjoy any of these other things. Because if the 1 of health becomes 0, everything else listed stops representing value and stats representing non-value instead.

Of course health is not binary and nothing is ever that simple, but what did you expect from a motivational poster.

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kolmiw t1_j8fbvkt wrote

So 1 Money is better than 1 Family?

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4354574 t1_j8fcft3 wrote

Replying to YouDownWithTPP (#1,800,838)

That’s why I think this doodle is generally accurate. The first one is the foundation on which all the others can be built.

I spend every spare penny I have on my health, have run into debt, have fought like hell and it still isn’t enough. I have no career, no family. All these people saying health is overvalued should reevaluate their perspective.

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D3Seeker t1_j8flchz wrote

Finally, something I can agree with

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roland_right t1_j8fsjut wrote

Zero money, no job, totally alone and no dream that things could improve. And the worst possible level of health a living person could have.

Poor bastard.

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ragergage t1_j8fxi8q wrote

Priorities seem to be in order

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jrtts t1_j8g48ed wrote

I got no work, no money, no family, no dreams, but I still got health, so there's that :)

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SyntheticSlime t1_j8g9es5 wrote

I like that money is 10x more important than family. Don would not approve.

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red_echer t1_j8gd33j wrote

Replying to _JohnWisdom (#1,799,188)

I have 1 person, no other family, and we're doing just great. However... the zeroes are weird. Dreams? Seriously? What about charity/giving/outward love/kindness? the whole graphic is messed up lol.

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qu19l3y t1_j8gealq wrote

Shit. I must not be healthy

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PosNeigh t1_j8gmis1 wrote

stares in multiple sclerosis

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TheEMCmusic t1_j8gmz1h wrote

This is more r/GetExistentialDread than r/GetMotivated.

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Krapmeister t1_j8gx6ij wrote

Wealth is health, if you don't have money you can't afford decent health care

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Zyxyx t1_j8gyqbs wrote

Replying to maniacalmustacheride (#1,798,264)

>as long as we work together.

So, Work should be placed higher than family, because as you said, the family can only exist if the work is done.

Essentially:

>If you can't hunt and she can't fish and I can't cook and she can't weave, we’re not okay

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XPEZNAZ t1_j8h3xz8 wrote

Who has work and money before family?

Wether it's blood related or life long friends, having supportive people around you is the most important thing, even more than health, I had a health issue that had me bedridden for a year and I don't know if I would've had the power to live through it without the support of my family.

Having a supporting environment is the best thing you can get.

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kefvedie t1_j8h7evq wrote

I feel like in the US money should be at 1. No money you lose your house, can't pay medical bills if needed, no house and you might lose your job .

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XeitPL t1_j8h7wup wrote

Idk, all I can see is 16

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Bronze5yrsplus t1_j8hf248 wrote

How can such an Americanised infographic be so unamerican. Money before health, because if you have no money you are dead if your health fails. Quite honestly this is demotivating as fuck.

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deko_dexon t1_j8hgq3t wrote

without luck everything going to be 0

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MidnightWolf000 t1_j8hhizh wrote

It's looks like shitty motivation for cheapest workers like some production. Forget about your dreams and family. Stay healthy to work as much as you can till you will be useful

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SamGewissies t1_j8hhjol wrote

Replying to no-kooks (#1,798,562)

It is actually in second place. It's zero increased the value by 900, while money only increased it by 90 and work by 9. Dreams increase it by 9000 making it the second most important in this stack, right after the health 1. Still it is a weird and unclear representation.

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AcherusArchmage t1_j8hlcra wrote

This is binary now, so you're healthy but everything else is turned off.

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Whole_Ad_6484 t1_j8hp8ag wrote

Replying to DecalArtist (#1,796,849)

LOL very well said. My thoughts are

  1. Health ( mentally, physically, spiritually, financially, emotionally)
  2. Family (blood or non blood related)
  3. Socially (Open to every walk and way of life)
  4. Productive/Working (Not all IMPORTANT Jobs provide $) And so on......
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Whole_Ad_6484 t1_j8hq3ql wrote

Replying to DifferentRegular4549 (#1,800,436)

Not all work the Universe, God, Nature, ancestors or whatever you'd like to call it..... Has called us to do a job/work that is a paycheck provider position. Our work or our occupations in society are shaping what our future outcome will be in our universe's. Sometimes the most important work is done when off the paycheck money system's clocks. I absolutely feel personally that working together and work for each other as a whole is the most attribute to have as a whole. Keep up the good work at all points of our lives and watch what our futures can hold for all walks of life. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

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LiemAkatsuki t1_j8hu0tf wrote

Is gout count as not healthy? I know a lot of successful and happy mens with gout.

The number 1 should be life, not health. No one's health is perfect, so this bs is nonsense.

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FortniteAbobus t1_j90wg5g wrote

I have 0.63 health. It means I have 0.630000 of it all.

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