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bsylent t1_j8a83lh wrote

Man I rest so hard it's ridiculous

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Cluelessish t1_j8alxz4 wrote

You can rest even harder! I believe in you!

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10jesus t1_j8bs2ye wrote

daddy rested so hard he started to smell funny

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MaxGuide t1_j8daj02 wrote

I usually rest after no longer being hard.

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humvee911 t1_j89pl59 wrote

The cemetery is full of successful people.

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H3lw3rd t1_j89ywq8 wrote

Its full of losers too

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not_another_drummer t1_j8aiofb wrote

If the goal is to be the richest person in the cemetery, you're still dead.

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myebubbles t1_j8amd5j wrote

Would suck to be in your 60s and wonder if you watched less sports/TV, you could have made a major contribution to humanity.

At least those regrets will be over in 30 years...

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aesu t1_j8aov27 wrote

Many studies show people don't really think this way by their sixties. These sort of ego driven thoughts are the purview of younger people, and on average, people mellow out and grow happier with age, regardless of life success.

Given that by definition, 99.9% of people just have to go to a mundane job every day for 50 years, to keep civlisation afloat, such a mindset of having to be in the 0.1% who make some major contribution to be happy, is going to leave 99.9% of people unhappy.

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savagetruck t1_j8bbvu5 wrote

This idea that the way most people contribute to the world is through their job is so myopic. It only exists because it’s easy to quantify.

I firmly believe that the biggest impact that 99.9% of people will have on the world is how they treat others, especially strangers.

I’ll give you a scenario: the lady in front of you at the grocery store is $20 short. You give her the $20. She doesn’t put back the breakfast supplies. Her kid gets a nice breakfast the next morning instead of nothing. Because of this, they’re not distracted and they get a good score on their placement exam that day, above the cutoff line for being in the gifted classes. They get more attention from teachers. They have more confidence in their abilities. They work harder in school, get good grades, get into college, get a good job, become successful.

Bad deeds work the same way. Say that instead of giving them $20, you steal $20 out of their purse in the checkout line. Now they don’t have the money for those breakfast supplies, their kid is below the cutoff line for gifted classes, and none of that stuff happens. They don’t do well in school, they don’t get into college, and they repeat the cycle of poverty they were born into.

I’m not saying that this happens every time you help someone with groceries, in fact it probably only happens 0.1% of the time, but it does happen. The problem is that we don’t see any of this, we don’t know what effect our actions have. But in reality, we all have a huge effect on the world around us.

Good and bad deeds also multiply. Say that woman is so grateful that she starts to do the same for others once her finances allow her to. The same thing happens to the people she helps, and the people they help, etc. Suddenly that single act is responsible for a thousand stories just like the one above, a thousand lives changed for the better. And that’s ONE single kind act. Multiply that over a lifetime, and you’ve affected millions of lives.

It won’t be on your tombstone, or in your eulogy, or in a Wikipedia article about your life, but this is your real legacy. This is your biggest impact on the world.

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Mike_H07 t1_j8d5yz5 wrote

Yeah sorry Imma disagree. While being nice is important, for a big part of the world they would rather have a working economy, gas bills paid and food on the table, which gets impacted by the economy of your country and what the productivity of your countries work is.

These stories are nice and some do have live changing moments, but this is just ignoring the people that work for 50 odd years making sure those groceries even exist in the first place.

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savagetruck t1_j8d79ja wrote

I didn’t imply anywhere that working and being a productive member of society isn’t important. Of course that’s still important, but you’re not changing the world working at your job. If you didn’t exist, someone else would be doing that job and would likely do about the same work as you did. People have to work to keep the economy functioning and that won’t change any time soon. But what everyone has in their power to control is how they treat other people, and the difference in someone’s lifetime effect on the world being a hateful, selfish, cruel person and a loving, generous, empathetic person is massive. It’s a lot more massive than if someone else did the job you’re doing.

To put it in economic terms: say you tried extra hard at work and increased your productivity by 10% over your lifetime by working 50 hours instead of 40 hours per week. Great, that’s 10% more work than you would’ve done over 50 years. It took 26,000 hours to do all of that extra work, 26,000 hours of productive work put into the economy.

Now say that instead of working an extra 10 hours, you volunteered in an after-school program for at-risk kids, taught them life skills, helped them with homework, and provided them with a responsible adult role model to emulate. Say you also did this for 10 hours a week for 50 years. Say that you spent 100 hours total per kid. That’s 260 kids who have a much better chance of succeeding academically, getting a good job, avoiding prison, raising a family, teaching their kids the same life skills and being that same role model, etc. 260 adults who are much more likely to be contributing to the economy instead of being a burden on government resources. Even if you only saved one of those kids from going to prison, that’s a huge amount of money that would be saved. It takes the full annual tax revenue of half a dozen working citizens just to incarcerate one person for a year.

Now which do you think has made the bigger impact, that 10% increase in your work productivity, or spending 100 hours each with 260 kids (or 200 hours each with 130 kids, or 1000 hours each with 26 kids) who go on to be much more likely to have productive careers of their own, and to raise children who also have productive careers, and so on? It’s simple interest vs. compounding interest, linear growth vs geometric growth.

I don’t just mean helping someone change a tire, I’m talking about being a positive force in other people’s lives, whether that’s taking advantage of chance encounters to help someone who needs it, making a concerted effort to help through a volunteer program, or just being kind to someone who needs some kindness in their life. You never know what effect your actions will have.

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Mike_H07 t1_j8df9dd wrote

Okay, I don't agree with your calculations, that 10% extra put into work could also be a breakpoint for many jobs changing lives etc (very unreasonable, but that is the premise of your being nice argument), cause guess what, all those volunteer tasks that have compounding interests also can he jobs. A teacher that teaches 10% better could also change so many more.lives than your volunteer guy, a doctor working 10% better, literally saving 10% more lives.

I don't disagree that education and mental health impact the economy a lot, but I disagree on the magnitude you describe to these effects from chance meetings on the street etc from untrained volunteer workers compared to mental health professionals

P.s. saying yeah someone else does the job if you don't exist and then ignoring that argument for your own choices (like only you can do volunteer work and no one else) is kinda weird.

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DukeVerde t1_j8cbjn1 wrote

> Bad deeds work the same way. Say that instead of giving them $20, you steal $20 out of their purse in the checkout line. Now they don’t have the money for those breakfast supplies, their kid is below the cutoff line for gifted classes, and none of that stuff happens. They don’t do well in school, they don’t get into college, and they repeat the cycle of poverty they were born into.

That's a ridiculously one dimensional way to look at things, and doesn't even work that way in modern countries where education is free.

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myebubbles t1_j8b72jd wrote

>many studies

>Psychology being science after their replication crisis

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Dragnskull t1_j8agnht wrote

I only sort of agree with this.

I'm in my late 30s, I have a full time job and run a side business while also putting myself through college. I am the sole income to a house of 3, my younger brother lives with me and shares caregiver duties with me for our heavily disabled mother. He watches her and does most house duties while I work.

I work hard and have almost no social life now since this situation started with my mom over 2 years ago. I do this willingly because I love my mother and she is the only person I've ever truly been able to count on. I do this for and with my brother because I love him as well. After the situation with our mom changes one way or another we will have to work on getting him operating as a self sufficient adult sgsin, we both know that and we both understand it won't be instant and will take more work.

If I die today I will not have any regrets for what I'm doing. These are the people I love and I would walk to the ends of the earth for them.

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fungi_at_parties t1_j8cbul8 wrote

I totally feel you and many people have no choice but to hustle endlessly, but I worked myself into a mental hospital and almost to death. I couldn’t juggle it all anymore and I broke down. It was a bit more complicated than that, but sleep deprivation and constant stress really damaged my body, and my brain isn’t quite what it was before my break. You can seriously burn yourself out if you burn the candle at both ends for too long and eventually find yourself unable to work effectively. Pure frustration, to have trained at something for years and years and to struggle emotionally to do it at all anymore. The depression was intense.

I know a guy who gave himself diabetes by dealing with his work stress through sugar, and another has chronic health issues- it can seriously damage you physically to push yourself too hard at work. It’s important to sleep and have hobbies outside of work to at least avoid burnout and exhaustion. Breaks and vacations help output in the long run, turns out.

But there’s still no shame in working fucking hard to support your people. This is just the system we live in.

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Dragnskull t1_j8cg8rw wrote

i understand what you mean but I think running non stop is what's keeping me sane. If I wanted I could just work my 9-5 and be fine financially, but that's just not who I am.

I wasted a lot of time partying in my early adulthood but also developed an entrepenuriel spirit. I wound up self employed in my mid 20's until my life reset from an extremely nasty breakup involving being lied to and left for another man. This was my second serious relationship to fall apart in this way and it did some real damage to me mentally.

to be honest it created serious emotional damage, to the point that I've been single for 10 years now. I'm incapable of connecting with anyone beyond superficial levels and at this point I've just kind of accepted I'll have to get by with casual flings that burn out from here on. I honestly don't see a wife and kids in the cards for me anymore despite being something I'd like to have.

Anyway, I used this life reset to change something: I always regretted not going to college and I decided I might as well make something good out of everything, so I signed up to college and got a "real job" to aliviate all the stress of being a 1 man army while in school. Thing is I was used to it and never fully stopped so over time I just kind of naturally built the entrepenure thing back up into a decent chunk of additional income.

Then the mom thing happened.

I don't have a girlfriend or wife, no kids, and frankly I'm already an emotional mess. I realized I think I kept doing the entrepenure thing because I can't tolerate more than 4-5 hours without being focused on something or else I start focusing on all the bad. Keeping myself going keeps the bad out, so I guess that's what I do.

Not to say this is something I'm strategically doing, but I notice I like to keep myself busy and the times I don't I start going into a pretty negative place.

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fungi_at_parties t1_j8edgsh wrote

I get that, distracting yourself with the work. I’m non-stop running too, I just make sure that some of that running is for things I WANT to do, not just the corporate bullshit I have to do. Even in my burnout I was still working, it was just painful. Took 3 years or more to even start to recover, and even now I’m still struggling. Having a spouse and multiple kids also makes it very difficult to work outside a 9-5, but even one kid can add a lot of stress. Sounds like you went through a lot of the trauma and stuff that causes people to shift earlier than most, but I’m glad you have a balance that works for you. Just please don’t push yourself too hard and I hope you take the time to enjoy some of your life. Otherwise what’s the point of being here?

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RTwhyNot t1_j8aded3 wrote

Some people don’t have the luxury of this choice.

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myebubbles t1_j8an7dx wrote

Yeah if you have a drug or spending problem, you always work hard..

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RTwhyNot t1_j8apbo1 wrote

Or if you are poor

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SirVanyel t1_j8asw2g wrote

Spending time with people you love can oftentimes be free, or at worst pretty cheap.

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Crustythe1 t1_j8b2awq wrote

It's the working long hours at multiple jobs part of being poor that cuts into your leisure time.

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SirVanyel t1_j8b5ao7 wrote

I get it, I'm trying to adjust to only having about 3 or so hours at home per day, time management is hard, but setting goals and priorities helps a lot

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myebubbles t1_j8b6yaq wrote

Scary stuff..keep learning more skills.

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ValyrianJedi t1_j8a78u8 wrote

This one can be pretty tricky, especially since working harder now can mean resting harder later. Not to mention nobody's priorities are identical... I spent most of my 20s working insanely hard. Barely had a single week between 22 and 29 that was less than 70 hours, and there were a couple of years in there where 90-100 hour weeks were the norm. But doing that when I was able to made it where now in my 30s I'm able to get a whole lot more while still resting and spending time with friends and family. And trading a significantly rougher time in my 20s for a significantly better 30s, 40s, 50s and on is a trade I'd make every time.

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myebubbles t1_j8an2ui wrote

Similar here. Worked hard my whole life. Basically don't think about money anymore.

I know too many people who tried getting a cushie job and are making half of what I make.

It seems to compound. I didn't know this when I was a kid, I got lucky.

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JaySocials671 t1_j8aza2a wrote

How did u compound and what do u mean by compound?

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myebubbles t1_j8b610f wrote

My jobs kept paying more, each job trained me and increased my value. I've also combined a hobby/side biz skill with my degree.

I do think I'm going to need to become a manager soon.

Basically I automate extremely expensive labor. Had to learn both the labor and the automation.

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JaySocials671 t1_j8b6c15 wrote

How does one go about finding expensive labor that can be automated? I want to do something similar but I don’t even know where to start. I have a masters degree and am starting some hobby side biz

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myebubbles t1_j8b7oy6 wrote

Be the expensive labor.

Learn to program.

Automate your own job.

Right now I automate 500k USD per year, compounding. I make $150k.

I'm considering to starting my own company and selling this service. I have a bit of experience in side businesses and my wife's company.

The only thing stopping me is the Victorian Dream of doing independent Science. Maybe I'll do that instead.

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JaySocials671 t1_j8b8vf4 wrote

Maybe you should. I do program. I am an expert in azure cloud and backend development.

Thank you for being open and sharing

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myebubbles t1_j8bcti7 wrote

Hmm I'm no expert in those. Maybe you can think of opportunities in tooling. Gpt is shaking that up, not even sure what to say.

I did (real) engineering for a decade. Gpt isn't great at that.

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PoconoChuck t1_j8bkyr8 wrote

Yes! Most of the time, the ones who advocate ‘don’t work hard’ are the ones who bitch when they’re passed over for promotions.

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ChildrenotheWatchers t1_j89u1bb wrote

Most put there by relatives who couldn't stop wanting favors. Can you do X for me? Night and day.

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Willow-girl t1_j8c80yi wrote

As Ann Landers used to say, "Nobody can take advantage of you unless you let them."

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Greddituser t1_j8arlua wrote

If you're going to hustle that hard then also make sure to eat well and to look after yourself.

I worked hard but did not take care of myself and ate a lot of things that were not good for me. Almost died just before my 60th birthday from a heart attack. I said I'm done and retired, and am concentrating on my health and my wonderful wife and kids. Quit smoking, started eating very clean and I'm in the gym 5-6 days a week with my wife and we're both enjoying my retirement.

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anony_philosopher t1_j8adoee wrote

I recently broke my hand; but after the doctor told me I have to take 6 weeks off I was telling myself “I’ll wait until I get the cast and I should be good to work.”It’s hard to not lose yourself in your work. My boss told me to take the 6 weeks to heal and collect disability. Upsetting but its better to let it heal properly.

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Starshapedsand t1_j8ae2d2 wrote

Tell me about it. I had to take disability retirement decades too young, and I was at a total loss for the first two years. Hell, in many ways, although I’ve cudgeled an existence together, the feeling sometimes persists.

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Major_Act8033 t1_j8bfj46 wrote

This feels disingenuous. Only a tiny tiny tiny percentage of people who are hustling to get ahead financially are doing 'just because' they want more money or deeply love their hustles.

Mostly hustle culture is just a more socially acceptable form of working multiple jobs. Ya know, the exact same thing poor people have done for decades. But nobody wants to say 'My job cut my hours to avoid giving me any benefits and now I deliver food to people on the side' because it's depressing.

Especially in a place like the US where almost all aspects of our lives are predicated on having money. Yeah, I love spending time with my kids, but I also love taking them to the doctor and dentist. And things like preschool, quality daycare, sports/clubs/robot camp/tutors/act prep/etc etc etc. And all of the places around me that are actually affordable are high crime with subpar public schools.

Almost everyone would rather make $250k, work 20 hours per week and have time to coach my kids little league team...but if I'm working extra hours it's not because I've lost sight of what's really important in life.

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ZepperMen t1_j8ac8oa wrote

Correction - You work hard to make things easier.

Not "work hard so you have an excuse to be lazy." You have every right to relax whenever you want, given that doing so won't make things more difficult later on.

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synthetic_aesthetic t1_j8bq9hl wrote

Where does the post say anything about working being an excuse to be lazy?

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ZepperMen t1_j8bvzv5 wrote

It's a common misconception that in order to relax they have to earn it. People feel guilty if they aren't working as if their worth is dependent on how much they labor.

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synthetic_aesthetic t1_j8bwblz wrote

I completely misread what you were saying. Yeah no one really “needs an excuse to be lazy” I just read this [post] as recognizing the importance of not pissing your life away in the “grindset” or whatever.

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The1Bonesaw t1_j8b3zyu wrote

Like I tell a lot of the young men in their twenties who come into my shop...

"Don't be afraid of getting older. Your thirties are great... you've got more money and people treat you with more respect. Your forties are even better because even more money and even more respect. BUT... travel now while you're still young and healthy enough to enjoy it... and fuck everybody while you're still young and healthy enough to enjoy it."

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Sofialovee t1_j8a57y1 wrote

Enjoy life before work

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myebubbles t1_j8anc02 wrote

And it's gone....

Cool vacation, but 4 hours of volunteering with kids hits harder.

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jrumley911 t1_j8awwv6 wrote

I needed to hear this today! #gratitude

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JaySocials671 t1_j8az53f wrote

Hustling is just like buying a lottery ticket. The probabilities are different than the power all but it’s still a lottery.

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Dalecomet t1_j8bhbs6 wrote

I'm still trying to find a reason to get out of bed

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Fancy_Female t1_j8d28h3 wrote

I feel bad for everyone who focuses on how hard they work.

if Working harder mattered, You'd scrub the floor with the toothbrush.

Value-provided matters - not working hard.

You should maximize your value provided within whatever capacities you have.

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MysticMonkeyShit t1_j8ff2co wrote

Extra pro tip: you’re also allowed to be content with what you have and NOT strive for more, but rather towards bettering yourself and achieve the best life for YOU (and those around you). Which isn’t mutually exclusive with the original comment but just saying that material things and money doesn’t increase your life quality as long as one has enough to pay life’s necessities and a few pleasures sometimes.

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Eight216 t1_j8a6cl9 wrote

Yo but I really can't rest harder than dead tbh

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ItPutsLotionOnItSkin t1_j8ajj4t wrote

Lead (supervisor without the power or pay) was mad we had 2 bad weather days because the roads were covered in ice. I heard him talking to himself how he made it to work and we were going to work every weekend from now on. I'm typing this in my house enjoying my time.

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CaptainJanewayIsMyMa t1_j8ajjto wrote

And celebrate each and every one of your victories no matter how large or small!!

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Statertater t1_j8an9gh wrote

Yeah… taking some time today to do that. I feel i should be working and normally am, but i am at wits end this afternoon and cant mentally handle more.

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Rita_Hal t1_j8bd8ci wrote

I'll take it easy when I'm dead!!!

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Sofialovee t1_j8bkiu6 wrote

I stand by this quote - it's so important to remember we need to enjoy life

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PoconoChuck t1_j8bkjrh wrote

I’ve always worked hard so I could have an easy retirement.

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RREINERR t1_j8blnw2 wrote

That's why it's important to work hard in a smart way and to create systems that will give you results that you wanted in less time and energy, because if you can do that you can do more than a person that works hard only and still have time for other things.

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10jesus t1_j8bs6sa wrote

why does everybody just assume you have friends and family

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SchloomyPops t1_j8bvb2i wrote

I would but i have to work. You see, I'm very poor

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JAYCEE-- t1_j8bvm7a wrote

Rest guys but harder

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darkspd96 t1_j8bzpdb wrote

Working from home, I can take naps during lunch, I'm never going back

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Echocycle t1_j8c2u2c wrote

Live fast, die young

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Dimpleshenk t1_j8c7kqo wrote

"Don't work super hard, because you might just die."

Now that's motivating!

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qevoh t1_j8cg289 wrote

That's a good one, thanks OP

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w1nt3rh3art3d t1_j8cvrzy wrote

Work hard and rest harder? That's actually a good way to put yourself in a grave early.

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mayaj66 t1_j8czf8t wrote

Upvote yeah

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kolosmenus t1_j8d0430 wrote

So basically “Live, laugh, love”?

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usinjin t1_j8d1av3 wrote

r/GetUnmotivated

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DrgnMstrAlex t1_j8da8wg wrote

Great advice... when you can eat regularly. Many people these days have to choose between food, rent, and utilities. Because many large employers chose profits over people.

This is a huge generalized comment on a large complex topic. I do realize that. But most advice like the original post is meant for the shrinking middle class and up.

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Rsigma_g t1_j8dcwvg wrote

I don’t have time and the time I have is used for escapism to make comments here

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PathFlat3869 t1_j8djayp wrote

Put rest on your to do list ♥️

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nism0o3 t1_j8e40zy wrote

My employer does not approve of this message.

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Snaggel t1_j8ewpak wrote

Hustling is spending the best years of your life to exhaustion so you can rest when you're old and exhausted anyway.

Besides, most people who hustle don't even know what to do once they've accumulated enough and get back working anyway out of boredom, albeit it be something of their liking in all likelyhood since they may choose not to work and withdraw if whatever they're doing doesn't please them.

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cutesandra8 t1_j8f4d0h wrote

I can't rest harder I am still young and I have a lot to achieve

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SpaceLemming t1_j8al65p wrote

Yeah cause I have a fucking choice, I hustle to stay out of a ditch

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mrheosuper t1_j8c8w52 wrote

Ah yes, cant wait to work for 13 hours and rest for 15 hours everyday

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Aristocrafied t1_j8ed9hp wrote

wowthanksimcured! I really have time, money and energy after a full work week to do anything other than locking myself away at home..

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ExistentialDreadness t1_j8em0mx wrote

Get motivated to do more of nothing, people! It’s time to stop!

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JollySky314 t1_j8epmpc wrote

“Don’t do this!” or “Do this!” has never worked for me. For example, when I dislike my mother-in-law, even if someone says “you must love your enemy,” how can I?

However, when I understand her life and become compassionate with her, I can learn a kind of psychology from her and I can thank her for giving me a chance to study firsthand psychology, and then I can work harder to become a better person who even can love my enemy.

Appreciation and Love naturally occur when we try to learn from others. I can’t memorize those many imperative forms either because my life would become too complex to enjoy.

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Toni253 t1_j8aaa0t wrote

Why would you always want 'more'?

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p2dan t1_j8als1f wrote

Lmao. Fuck this post

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Economy_Scarcity1975 t1_j8btr3r wrote

I don’t understand why more people don’t spend a day and talk with a CPA

IF YOUR A WAGE SLAVE START A BUSINESS LITERALLY CAN BE ANYTHING.

FIND A CPA WHO IS NOT AN IDIOT.

TALK HOW YOU CAN SPEND MONEY ON YOUR BUSIENSS TO REDUCE THE AMOHNT YOU PAY ON TAXES.

GO READ RICH DAD POOR DAD IT IS REALLY THAT EASY.

Tl:dr IF YOU SPEND MORE MONEY THEN YOU MAKE YOU NEVER PAY ANY TAX.

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