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psyckomantis t1_j664yze wrote
The whole thing just reeks of… something. Not sure what but it isn’t good haha
HomoVulgaris t1_j669n9j wrote
Dude was a wacko who disappeared up his own ass. He sincerely believed that the human intellect was an evolutionary mistake, like a deer that had evolved horns too heavy for its own head.
AngelicDevilz OP t1_j682emf wrote
He might be right. Look at orcas, top of the food chain, they have nothing to fear. They just swim around with all their friends and family as they eat yummy things, play games with their food and each other, sing, have sex and sleep. No stress, no bills, nothing but endless pleasure.
We are the top predators on land. We could have had the happy existence of orcas if we hadn't kept evolving. We only really needed spears and a group of us could take down even the biggest bear. But we just couldn't stop there.
Now we're stressed all day about bills, forced to spend most of our waking hours doing things we hate, we worry about what are neighbors will think if we skip mowing for a week or how we will pay back student loans after picking a major that was way too hard or is useless even if earned. We watch people live their lives on tiny screens because our own feel so meaningless. We retire and realize with horror that we are too tired and in too much pain to enjoy the freedom that we wasted our whole lives doing things we hate to get.
Are cars and telephones really better than happiness?
HomoVulgaris t1_j68p67e wrote
You're right, OP! Let's live like animals because animals are happy.
AngelicDevilz OP t1_j68pcin wrote
We ARE animals. What is more important than happiness?
HomoVulgaris t1_j68pi7i wrote
Your duty to your fellow human beings.
AngelicDevilz OP t1_j68stwj wrote
Duty to fellow humans? I am homeless, I could not even find a place to let me use their sink to apply lice treatment recently and had to do it outside in the cold at night with a jug of water that ran out leaving lice treatment in my fuvkimg hair. I was fired from a non-profit when my coworker discovered I was homeless. There are more empty homes in America than homeless yet our government won't give us basic shelter. It's legal to discriminate based on homelessness and so so many people do and we cannot even sue.
So why should I owe anything to humanity that has abandoned the poorest humans? Humanity only cares about humanity until it becomes an inconvence to do so.
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ferrett321 t1_j64ncy8 wrote
A depressing yet accurate account of the world we find ourselves in. I don't feel motivated at all.
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siryolk t1_j687yv6 wrote
Yes keys net more ref than tickets but they also cost 2.5x more and keys are cheaper on scm and mp.tf than on Mann co store while tickets are cheapest on Mann co store
ferrett321 t1_j6967hw wrote
huh
[deleted] t1_j62yp63 wrote
Life and it’s meaning is what you make it.
cosmiccoffee9 t1_j64p3r8 wrote
maybe some folks just have too many longings.
LEJ5512 t1_j64zosf wrote
That's what it is -- that's the key. When you reduce your longings — when you can stop stressing about a future that hasn't even arrived yet — you can begin to better appreciate the present.
AngelicDevilz OP t1_j65p987 wrote
I feel like longing for more is part of the human condition. If we were all content and happy then we would stagnate and the world would never improve.
And yet if that was the case there would be no need for improvement as we would all be happy and content and what could be a better improvement over that?
LEJ5512 t1_j65rwhg wrote
Heard a story in a podcast last night (pardon me if I paraphrase):
A fisherman went about his daily routine — go out on his little boat in the morning, catch a small amount of fish, bring it back, sell some and keep some, and then go home to relax for the rest of the afternoon.
A tourist met him and learned what he was doing and how little his one-man fishing operation was.
"You know," the tourist said, "what you can do is, if you go out again in the afternoon, you can bring back twice as much fish to sell in the market. Then after a while, you can make enough money to buy a bigger boat, and then you can catch more fish. Work hard and you can get together a small fleet of boats, and then you can make more money and sell more fish. Then you keep doing this for a while longer until you make lots of money and become the boss of a large company. And then, finally, you'd have enough money and free time to relax in the afternoons."
The fisherman leaned back in his chair and smiled quietly.
HomoVulgaris t1_j66beqj wrote
Similar stories abound, but stories like this didn't land a man on the moon.
A bunny is happy if it is dry and fed. A human also. But a human who denies all aspects of himself except those which he shares with the bunny will live, by definition, as a happy animal: a degenerate.
We are given desperately little time on Earth. Should we not use this time to, even in some small way, ease the path of those that will come after us? Is there any other moral option?
The man who leans back in his chair and smiles quietly believes he is enjoying the fruits of his labor, but is it not closer to the truth to say that he is living off the collective efforts of the civilization around him as much as by his own labor? Standing on the shoulders of giants, he decides he would rather sit.
notyurmamma t1_j66jbku wrote
Honest questions: What has landing on the moon really done for society? How does it add to the greater good of anything? I get that being able to launch satellites into orbit has created an entirely different technological infrastructure, but I don’t know that the moon landing really contributed anything more.
The man who sits back in his chair really IS enjoying the fruits of his labor. He likes his life the way it is. He could work harder, but the end goal in the story after building his fishing empire is enjoying his afternoon off. He has that now. He isn’t denying himself anything.
HomoVulgaris t1_j673dnv wrote
Honest answer: The truth is that nobody could have predicted the impact of satellite technology. So the researchers of the 1950s couldn't get to satellite technology directly: they had no idea it existed. The only way to discover it was to shoot for the moon. They strove towards a goal which, in retrospect, was foolhardy: the exploration of an interstellar hunk of rock with nothing particularly noteworthy on its surface. However, it was this goal, as well as the equally foolhardy and impossible goal of "stop communism" that provided the impetus for the discovery of much of the technology of the information age.
You'll recall that the explorers of North America had similar foolhardy goals about spice islands and cities of gold. The medieval alchemists who invented modern chemistry did so with the stated goal of discovering the elixir of life, the cure-all, and the philosopher's stone. On the one hand, what childish vanities these ancients tried to obtain! On the other hand, what wonders they discovered in the process!
The man in the chair definitely isn't denying himself anything! We agree. He is denying, however, something that he owes to humanity: leaving this planet Earth better than you found it.
notyurmamma t1_j678qf5 wrote
I believe that the overriding consensus is that we are not leaving earth better than we found it. Pollution from plastics and micro-plastics, carbon emissions, chemical irritants, all man-made substances, invading our air, soil, and water…depleting our ecosystems. This impetus, this “progression,” at times foolhardy..this deterioration…driven by ego and greed and childish vanity…are we that much better off? Are we closer to a sustainable planet? A sustainable economy? A sustainable life? Not really. I think that is the point of this entire conversation. People sought out spices and decimated native cultures. People sought out other territories and eventually fought for control. Would war even be an issue if not for greed? If not for control and leverage and “furthering” one’s position? There is a tipping point. At which point do you trade happiness in the sake of “progression?” I don’t particularly know, but I feel like on the whole, we have surpassed it.
AngelicDevilz OP t1_j6836tx wrote
Humans work more of their lives today in 2022 than we did at any point in the past. Progression has led to more work, less freedom, less freedom and more laws and more prison time than in the past. The old man isn't making things better but he isn't making things worse, the young lad who wants a fishing empire contributes to making the World worse for 99% of people whilst improving it only for those so rich they have never had to worry about not being able to afford both rent And food.
I'd choose happiness for most humans over cars and smartphones any day.
Newme91 t1_j64paq5 wrote
Personally, I've always thought my biggest issue is being too well endowed. The struggle is real.
GeeJake t1_j62x6jz wrote
Damn
oakteaphone t1_j64wgpg wrote
My human and what??
AngelicDevilz OP t1_j65oexh wrote
I don't get it?
oakteaphone t1_j6651ed wrote
>your human and far from alone
My human and what??
[deleted] t1_j66wkvq wrote
Yes OP made a typo and you spotted it. We get it.
oakteaphone t1_j678t07 wrote
OP said they didn't get it
AngelicDevilz OP t1_j681kb9 wrote
I still don't get it..
oakteaphone t1_j68hh4r wrote
"Your" is possessive. So by saying "Your human", it seems like you're talking about "my human" (since "my" is the possessive form of "me").
Of course I knew that you meant "you are" shortened to "you're", but that's why it was a joke, lol
AngelicDevilz OP t1_j68qd6x wrote
Oh, I think that will change soon. Few people bother with opening the symbols screen when typing just to say you're instead of your. It's too inconvenient if autocorrect won't do it automatically and language and spelling change based on common usage so I imagine you're will be another old English word in a few decades. I try to speed the change along as much as I can.
oakteaphone t1_j6970ra wrote
I doubt it. We have enough professional writing that will be unlikely to change that way.
They used to say we'd be replacing them both with "ur", but that didn't happen.
AngelicDevilz OP t1_j699srp wrote
Ur died because smartphones made texting easier.
Unless something replaces smart phones then things will change over time.
oakteaphone t1_j69izuc wrote
I think it'll be autocorrect getting smarter
xtrasus t1_j652eqb wrote
My human?
phantomrabbit1 t1_j6ceub4 wrote
Very wise words
surferos505 t1_j64ym8e wrote
Bruh I thought that was Walter white 💀💀
2KilAMoknbrd t1_j656j5s wrote
*You're
Obiwancuntnobi t1_j667mj9 wrote
You’re
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pineappleshnapps t1_j65zhvk wrote
It’s okay to feel like that, but you should still try and find thins that bring you happiness and fulfillment.
AngelicDevilz OP t1_j660bc6 wrote
That's the key to never being happy. Happiness and fullfillment will come if I finally get X, but once I got X I realized my real desire was Y all along so I started striving towards Y.
You can spend your whole life trying to find happiness and never succeed or you can just be happy with your shit life. Then you happy all the time.
HomoVulgaris t1_j646gr0 wrote
I am ALSO tragically too well endowed. All my boyfriends say so.