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buwefy t1_j4b0fnz wrote

There is another, the pain of discipline AND regret. Sometimes you discipline in a dumb thing, sometimes you get unlucky, and then you regret wasting your life being discipleship, when your asshole friends who always just had a good time, keep having a good time, a don't even know how to do that... It's important to choose battles wisely!

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DarkFlameShadowNinja t1_j4bi3ha wrote

Exactly in life it can be anything
Sometimes even if you had the right pain of discipline it will not always end in the intended or right outcome only to end up in the pain of regret whether the pain of discipline was dumb, normal or smart cuz life is made to be this way same goes for regret
Problem with the OP quote is only between but in life it could be both or one leading to another either way what people need to realize that not every thing goes according to plan and manage expectations wisely

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IJustBeTalking t1_j4cdau5 wrote

I agree with everything you said but please use commas and periods, I feel like i’m on crack reading this

granted you did give us a single comma

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what_that_thaaang_do t1_j4bt50o wrote

That is an outcome, not a choice. Just because you picked one doesn't mean you are not guaranteed to get the other--only that you are guaranteed to get what you picked

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misterpickles69 t1_j4dxxbr wrote

I recently heard “Failure isn’t an option. It’s a requirement.” And it makes the setbacks more palatable for some reason.

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kimou001 t1_j4kj41x wrote

>I recently heard “Failure isn’t an option. It’s a requirement.” And it makes the setbacks more palatable for some reason.

yes, and : Failure is a diploma! .

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Penis_Bees t1_j4catbs wrote

That might be true but if you read this as "discipline as a general virtue" it works.

Even when it comes to things as simple as like cleaning your house, it's usually better to be disciplined than to try to catch up later.

It's a skill to work on. And doesn't work out 100% in a vacuum but works as a general concept.

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BastionNZ t1_j4cu67g wrote

It's being disciplined for targeted goals.

I.e "I'm not happy with my body/health"

You either be disciplined and eat good and go to the gym

Or choose not to be and a year later be regretful.

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tolegittoshit2 t1_j4bk481 wrote

omg that one guy who is just like smart and knows how to work everyone over and in the end things just work out for him but never for you.

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Hendlton t1_j4ceta7 wrote

It's not even that for me. It's the dumb guy who doesn't really know anything, but things work out anyway. You look a them and think "If I tried any of that, it would go wrong every step of the way."

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BastionNZ t1_j4cty1a wrote

"dumb" people often have success because they don't overthink things and just take action with confidence which is classic risk/reward.

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PootenRumble t1_j4crr8c wrote

Persistence - as long as you keep trying without giving up after failure, eventually something works. Failure is a step forward. The “dumb” may just mean a willingness to fail frequently, and that certainly will be the way to find success.

Try it with a goal to fail fast, you’ll learn from every step. And it will end up working out - if you’re persistent enough to not give up.

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tolegittoshit2 t1_j4cki3o wrote

the guy that just got a job that stated you needed a degree but he somehow got it without a degree and also makes like $30k more then you haha ya that guy

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alternaivitas t1_j4cy1qs wrote

It's called risk taking. Everything has a risk which you might or might not know in advance, but you are taking risks just by not doing anything either.

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aj9393 t1_j4dyc82 wrote

That's I why I tend toward the Stoicism view of the world.

The tl:dr version is, discipline is a virtue. Your goal should always be living according to your virtues, therefore you achieve happiness through the act of practicing discipline itself, rather than the outcome of being disciplined. The idea being that you only have control over yourself (being disciplined) but do not have control over externals (whether or not the discipline produces the desired outcome). You shouldn't weigh your happiness on externals which you can't control.

This is a pretty poor write-up to be honest, and really only scratches the surface, but it might be sufficient to get the point across.

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4444444vr t1_j4cypgd wrote

I also used to be Mormon /s

But seriously, I relate to this

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