Basically, invest time in DOING new things rather than trying to AVOID old things. It's easier to build new habits than it is to get rid of old ones, because something needs to fill the void of the old.

I like the quote, but...

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/05/28/socrates-energy/?amp=1

> In conclusion, the quotation is from a character named Socrates who was a gas-station attendant in a book published in the 1980s by Dan Millman. The quote was not from the renowned Greek philosopher.

It's OK. Most 'actual' quotes from Socrates are not from Socrates either, but from the character Socrates in a book by Plato.

This is not the Socrates you think it is.

Damn solid. I needed that one right now.

He never wrote anything down because he hated interpreters

The best way to beat an addiction is to replace it with a new one. For me it was replacing alcohol with exercise. Easily the best decision I've ever made in my life I'm 10x happier 10x healthier and at least 100% more attractive. I implore anyone struggling with anything to let go of the past or what's out of your control and focus entirely on kicking ass and doing your best right here and right now.

About to say: this did not remotely sound like Socrates, whether in Plato, Xenophon, or Aristophanes.

"Get money, fuck bitches"

• Socrates 410BCE

Because misquoting doesn't matter.

First time I got out of rehab....all I did/thought was about fighting the old.
Relapsed after 3 months....

Second time I focused on building the new.

It worked.

Obligatory "it wasn't that socrates" but...

This is a particularly good way to approach tidying somewhere that's really messy and disorganised. Focus on where items should go. Often mess results from never sorting out proper places to put stuff. Once everything has a 'home', tidying up gets way easier.

The method of dialectic is not very conducive to writing, as one needs to be able to ask and answer, but a reader can only read and can't be questioned directly.

And none of those would be considered quotes of Socrates, as each of those authors is presenting their own dramatic work.

The only quotes of Socrates that could be regarded as true would be from historians who are trying to make an accurate record. But Plato was trying to present a certain philosophical message himself, and to make something that is dramatic.

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There are no such historians in the extant Greek literary corpus. My purpose in listing off the three extant Greek authors which portray Socrates was to note that of our existing literary depictions, none would have said the trite shit that is at the head of this thread. But yes thank you for reminding me that that Socrates himself wrote nothing down: I also took a high school survey of philosophy class.

I don't quite get the sarcastic and aggressive tone here, but ok. I don't think we much disagree here. I'm pointing it out for those who might not know. I do agree with you that these are the accounts that'd typically be taken as 'quotes of Socrates', as the anecdote about Socrates' wife being a tamable horse in Xenophon's Symposium is taken as though he said it.

And if you think that 'Plato is not an accurate depiction of Socrates' is known by all undergraduate philosophy students, you'd be surprised how many tenured classics professors seem to hold the opinion.

There are a few scattered anecdotal accounts of Socrates that are intended to be accurate (even if not from historians). I'm not sure if one could derive a quote from them.

Perhaps you’ve caught me on a bad day, but your comment felt needlessly pedantic when, as you note, there’s no underlying disagreement here. If your intent was to expand upon what was implicit in my comment for the sake of those who don’t know what Xenophon or Aristophanes (or even Plato) wrote about Socrates, then fair enough. Apologies for being aggressively sarcastic.

It might have been too pedantic, perhaps.

But plato works that in his dialogues no?