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ImWithStupid_ImAlone t1_ixjdu8s wrote

Nah. This is bad advice.

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DataSquid2 t1_ixk8hol wrote

Not typically. There's certain professions where it's bad advice as seen in this thread: surgery, flying a plane, etc.

However, a lot of learning on the job, or just in general, is doing exactly this. If it's something where you can hurt someone by doing it then don't, otherwise try your best and learn some new shit.

Source: I got into my profession by doing work that I was unqualified for until I got good at it. I now work for start-ups to do that thing.

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hal0t t1_ixkojvz wrote

There is outside of comfort zone, then there is unqualified. Those are 2 different things. You grow by going out of your comfort zone. Even a fully qualified surgeon goes out of his/her comfort zone every time they try a new surgical advancement. You shouldn't do shit you are totally unqualified to do.

Learning on the job means you are in the job, lyou might be lacking here and there (underqualified) but someone already judged you qualified for that job

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DataSquid2 t1_ixkssk0 wrote

There's two arguments here.

One: that's getting into the pedantics of what being qualified means. I perceive it as if you feel that way. Considering the sub I think self identification of that is fine.

Two: that you can do things outside of your job description that you are unqualified to do and if it's good enough to show it off.

I am talking about both of these things. I constantly do shit that I perceive that I am unqualified for and also things that I am unqualified for. Also, as previously stated since we're getting weird here, only if it doesn't hurt someone.

We can reframe this as underqualified or however you want to take it. At a certain point it's understanding the intent of what's said.

Tldr; do shit you're unqualified for.

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hal0t t1_ixl900x wrote

You were underqualified, not totally unqualified. People underqualified is different from unqualified. Let's just agree to disagree.

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DataSquid2 t1_ixldvit wrote

Not the case, that's not my story. You really shouldn't tell othet people that their lived experiences are not real because you can't imagine them.

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wsdpii t1_ixkkutd wrote

Gets told to do something that I'm unqualified for with no training or advice.

Fails miserably for obvious reasons.

Gets written up because I did it wrong.

Repeat because my boss hates me.

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DataSquid2 t1_ixklzmg wrote

That falls under the "if it doesn't hurt someone" statement with you being that someone.

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BataBataShiteiru t1_ixk9eu9 wrote

It can be, yes, but only if you use it as an excuse to ignore common sense. I find it worthwhile to think about the fact that anything you are even remotely competent at began from a place of complete inexperience.

The advice is meant to counter the risky feeling of beginning something, not a critique of the importance of expertise.

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PersonOfInternets t1_ixkhd2z wrote

No it's not. It's actually exactly what I needed to hear tonight. He isn't saying to do work that requires licensing without a license.

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ThinkingTanking t1_ixle5n1 wrote

You took it literally and some joke about it if you take it literal. It's good advice if you use your brain.

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ImWithStupid_ImAlone t1_ixmgswo wrote

What?

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ThinkingTanking t1_ixmuos8 wrote

The quote is saying to try new things. Not to start flying commercial planes or do surgery on someone.

Similar to "If you only do what you can, you'll never be more than what you are"

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Lancaster61 t1_ixmpeaq wrote

Maybe “barely qualified” is the right word. Like you’re technically in the right place, but you’re the tiny fish in a giant ocean.

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