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ValyrianJedi t1_iwh0ca5 wrote

Reply to comment by Droidlivesmatter in [Image] Calvin and Hobbes tells it like it is by maayangor

Eh, there is a time and a place for both... I can say with pretty much 100% certainty that I wouldn't be anywhere near where I am now if I hadn't done the grind/network/bust ass thing for a decent while... From like 22-25 I worked 100 hour weeks, then did grad school for a year and a half, then from like 27-31 worked 60-70 hour weeks with a side gig on top and did an obscene amount of networking... Was definitely rough at times, but now at 33 I'm super set. We have our first kids on the way now, and because of all the time and energy I put in earlier now I'm able to let off the gas and spend time with them while still being able to take care of them, get them things they want, send them to great schools, etc.. Wouldn't trade doing things the way I did for anything...

And I know a decent many people who are in the same boat, so I just don't think that "don't hustle" is universally solid advice.

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SmarmyCatDiddler t1_iwhc2cg wrote

The fact its even seen as a necessity or some moral good is what's the problem here

If you worked more than double what is seen as the max amount for someone's well being for 7 years in order to feel "set", then that's awful

Sure on the other side you may feel safe to romanticize it and try and nudge others to do the same, but you're simply lucky

What we should be doing instead is trying to get more labor rights and social benefits moreso than pushing people to go past their limits so they can maybe be comfortable later in life

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ValyrianJedi t1_iwhd050 wrote

I'm not saying it's necessary or a moral good. I'm saying that it was worth it to me... And I'm not saying that I had to do that to get by, or be in decent financial shape. I'm saying that I had to to be in well above average financial shape.

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SmarmyCatDiddler t1_iwiozdz wrote

Oh sure, I'm not saying you're saying that

I just meant as a culture its usually seen as the right move without looking at the problem at a deeper level

The fact you need to do it at all is not great

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Arctic601 t1_iwhgxl8 wrote

What part of working hard, putting forth effort and networking is lucky?

What am I missing here?

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SmarmyCatDiddler t1_iwif3mo wrote

That it worked out in such a way that you're set in your 30s

It doesn't happen to everyone, and some people get burnt out a lot easier and get get to where they want in that time frame if at all

The fact you're practically slaving for almost a decade isn't super healthy for human bodies or brains

It can cause lifelong stress

If you escaped that? Thats lucky

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