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ItsDumi t1_itqy23e wrote

Reply to comment by TwoStepsSidewards in [Image] Before you start your week... A message that I come back to every single day. by eagleclaw901

If hard work led to success, everyone with a 9 - 5 would be successful.

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xQx1 t1_itsvfij wrote

>If hard work led to success, everyone with a 9 - 5 would be successful.

In 2022 economic terms, everyone with a 9 - 5 is successful.

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Beckys_cunt t1_itsm8hh wrote

That's simply not true. just because you're at work doesn't mean you're working hard.

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TwoStepsSidewards t1_itr23k9 wrote

This is purely my perspective on life, but, a 9-5 is the bare-minimum in a professionals life and isn't something I would consider successful in the grand scheme of finance acquisition. Even if you're making $150k/anually, if you're not working for yourself I don't believe you're fiscally independent. Success would be getting to a place of independence not available through a 9-5.

The attitude that holding a single 9-5 in modern society is some sort of achievement is limiting the potential for anyone who believes it. Reality in most cases a 9-5 is a base-level requirement and you'll never be successful only doing the base-level work.

If you want to only do, Bench, Squat, Deadlift, at your comfortable weight for 10 years of your life, I wouldn't say that's you putting in "hard work" it's base-level work which everyone should be doing. You won't get to the top levels of success with that workout, but you'll still be above anyone who doesn't even put in any effort.

Life's full of variables and outliers which we can discuss, but this is my general principle of thought on the topic.

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EricYorbasTaintSmell t1_its1pui wrote

What load of nonsense in your reply. By that same token, anyone who works more than you can look at you as doing the bare minimum, slacker.

Maybe a one size fits all approach to your perspective is the problem with your outlook.

What do the boots taste like? Never actually licked them myself

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TwoStepsSidewards t1_itsptvk wrote

> By that same token, anyone who works more than you can look at you as doing the bare minimum, slacker.

I don't understand how you got to this perspective. It's really a spectrum. You can be a millionaire but not a billionaire. Both are successful, but one is greater than the other. Which in return, the billionaire could say the millionaire is a "slacker" in certain degrees of finance, even though both are successful compared to average income earners. But a 9-5 worker will never be able to tell a millionaire they're a slacker, because they're not as successful fiscally.

The original comment is about how "everyone who works a 9-5 if they work hard should be successful then" which the reality is having a 9-5 is not working "hard" in comparison to someone fiscally independent. It's the bare-minimum, again, everyone should be getting some fitness in through the week as bare-minimum, a lot of people don't do any. That doesn't make the people who do the 3 times a week walk successful in fitness, it makes them the bare-minimum. Now may that bare-minimum be difficult for the individual? It sure may, - but in comparison to the grand scheme of fitness it is not, above average. Where working a 9-5 is average.

>Maybe a one size fits all approach to your perspective is the problem with your outlook

My outlook? The fact you should work beyond the average and desire independence is holding me back? I don't understand how you would think that when the other avenue is just, "do the average 9-5" unless you believe a 9-5 is not average. I'm unsure as you didn't feel inclined to highlight any opposition, you just put up silly insults.

>What do the boots taste like? Never actually licked them myself

This is really odd as you're the advocate for a 9-5 but calling me the bootlicker? Your position is, 'work for someone that's paying me far less than they are getting paid, because that's success" where mine is "9-5 is the starting point, aim higher and work towards it because working for the man won't get you success.' Could you explain how my ideology is "bootlicking" while yours isn't?

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Neurosaiki t1_ittlahq wrote

I have worked 9-5 and did a business and trust me as a businessman you are working 24*7 and its hell lot hard than 9-5. I think you are suffering from victim mindset.

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