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TwoStepsSidewards t1_itqi2yy wrote

Not a fan of this one.

Life is not sunshine and rainbows, hard work is required to succeed. Some of which, cost physical and mental strains that are needed to be pushed through not avoided.

To each their own, but I'd prefer working on my stress resilience not my ability to drop taxing problems in my life.

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nestcto t1_itqt25r wrote

Agreed. It's just like working out at the gym. You don't try to bench 150lb on your first go, then conclude that its not worth it after you injure a muscle. You work up to it over time.

Strain is good, but injury is not and comes from too much strain in too short a timeframe. That's what should be avoided.

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tanktametet-pwemskan t1_itrty21 wrote

>Strain is good, but injury is not and comes from too much strain in too short a timeframe.

I tried to tell that to life but it wouldn't listen. now I've got permanent injuries that will not heal. no it couldn't be avoided.

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ItsDumi t1_itqy23e wrote

If hard work led to success, everyone with a 9 - 5 would be successful.

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xQx1 t1_itsvfij wrote

>If hard work led to success, everyone with a 9 - 5 would be successful.

In 2022 economic terms, everyone with a 9 - 5 is successful.

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Beckys_cunt t1_itsm8hh wrote

That's simply not true. just because you're at work doesn't mean you're working hard.

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TwoStepsSidewards t1_itr23k9 wrote

This is purely my perspective on life, but, a 9-5 is the bare-minimum in a professionals life and isn't something I would consider successful in the grand scheme of finance acquisition. Even if you're making $150k/anually, if you're not working for yourself I don't believe you're fiscally independent. Success would be getting to a place of independence not available through a 9-5.

The attitude that holding a single 9-5 in modern society is some sort of achievement is limiting the potential for anyone who believes it. Reality in most cases a 9-5 is a base-level requirement and you'll never be successful only doing the base-level work.

If you want to only do, Bench, Squat, Deadlift, at your comfortable weight for 10 years of your life, I wouldn't say that's you putting in "hard work" it's base-level work which everyone should be doing. You won't get to the top levels of success with that workout, but you'll still be above anyone who doesn't even put in any effort.

Life's full of variables and outliers which we can discuss, but this is my general principle of thought on the topic.

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EricYorbasTaintSmell t1_its1pui wrote

What load of nonsense in your reply. By that same token, anyone who works more than you can look at you as doing the bare minimum, slacker.

Maybe a one size fits all approach to your perspective is the problem with your outlook.

What do the boots taste like? Never actually licked them myself

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TwoStepsSidewards t1_itsptvk wrote

> By that same token, anyone who works more than you can look at you as doing the bare minimum, slacker.

I don't understand how you got to this perspective. It's really a spectrum. You can be a millionaire but not a billionaire. Both are successful, but one is greater than the other. Which in return, the billionaire could say the millionaire is a "slacker" in certain degrees of finance, even though both are successful compared to average income earners. But a 9-5 worker will never be able to tell a millionaire they're a slacker, because they're not as successful fiscally.

The original comment is about how "everyone who works a 9-5 if they work hard should be successful then" which the reality is having a 9-5 is not working "hard" in comparison to someone fiscally independent. It's the bare-minimum, again, everyone should be getting some fitness in through the week as bare-minimum, a lot of people don't do any. That doesn't make the people who do the 3 times a week walk successful in fitness, it makes them the bare-minimum. Now may that bare-minimum be difficult for the individual? It sure may, - but in comparison to the grand scheme of fitness it is not, above average. Where working a 9-5 is average.

>Maybe a one size fits all approach to your perspective is the problem with your outlook

My outlook? The fact you should work beyond the average and desire independence is holding me back? I don't understand how you would think that when the other avenue is just, "do the average 9-5" unless you believe a 9-5 is not average. I'm unsure as you didn't feel inclined to highlight any opposition, you just put up silly insults.

>What do the boots taste like? Never actually licked them myself

This is really odd as you're the advocate for a 9-5 but calling me the bootlicker? Your position is, 'work for someone that's paying me far less than they are getting paid, because that's success" where mine is "9-5 is the starting point, aim higher and work towards it because working for the man won't get you success.' Could you explain how my ideology is "bootlicking" while yours isn't?

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Neurosaiki t1_ittlahq wrote

I have worked 9-5 and did a business and trust me as a businessman you are working 24*7 and its hell lot hard than 9-5. I think you are suffering from victim mindset.

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-female-redditor- t1_itrxefb wrote

Mental health is different than stress.

Some amount of stress can be healthy, as you pointed out, but when you overwork yourself endlessly, it takes a serious toll on your mental health.

Lifting weights properly leads to healthy muscles and growth. Lifting weights endlessly without rest leads to muscle injury.

It’s important to know where your limits are, and not to over exert yourself, both physically and mentally.

If the activity you are forcing yourself to do is making you depressed so much that you find yourself escaping from reality (alcohol, drugs, eating too much, sleeping too much, etc), odds are high that you are pushing yourself too hard.

My job was extremely stressful and it took a serious toll on my body. Whenever I wasn’t working, I was trying to forget work so I wouldn’t be stressed. This lead to me gaining a lot of weight and getting drunk and high all the time when I wasn’t working. When I quit my job, I just naturally stopped all of those bad habits and ended up losing 15 pounds in just two months.

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Neurosaiki t1_itr07lc wrote

100% agreed, science has proven that short term stress is one of the essential factor of learning a new complex skill, imagine yourself struggling with calculus questions and giving up, you will never learn that way. Stress is a mode of a body where it do everything in its control to get the problem solved.

The better approach as you said is to work on stress resilience and being completely conscious about what is worthy of stress and what is not, enlightening youself with wisdom might help. Remember we suffer more in imagination than in reality, so keep in mind to that.

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tanktametet-pwemskan t1_itru80w wrote

short term stress? that's all the negative that happens from busting ass? bullshit. try some permanent physical injuries over and over for a couple decades.

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Neurosaiki t1_ittkyug wrote

I highly recommend JR Rudland research paper on how stress is a paradox and a necessary evil. But this all comes down to how you define stress

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tanktametet-pwemskan t1_itrts3w wrote

after all that hard work, I've had two surgeries for hernia repair. Lost nerve function in my left hand and am losing my eyesight. gosh, I wish all I needed was simple stress resilience. get back to me when those taxing problems cause you permanent physical damage.

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Suspicious-Elk-3631 t1_itt4chz wrote

For real. This is the kind of coffee mug quote crap they try to sell you at Hobby Lobby. Most people can't just stay home when they need "me time" or drop everything and get a new less stressful job and still pay the bills. Life is hard, take care of yourself and others the best you can and make do. I'm fun at parties.

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dplagueis0924 t1_itsi3db wrote

100%, every single thing that you love in life is going to cause you grief at some point. Working through that is what makes things that much more rewarding.

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Insanity8016 t1_itstv2m wrote

Goggins would definitely disagree with the image post as well. One might also point out, that even through hard work, and through suffering physically and mentally, you may still fail all the same and end up right back where you started, or worse. And that is heartbreaking, to say the least. But the message lies in trying again.

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hezzospike t1_itt4m09 wrote

I respect Goggins' accomplishments but he (very self admittedly) has some screws loose. He's pushed himself to the point of serious bodily injury on many occasions. Good for motivation in small doses, but not someone to replicate.

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