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gmorkenstein t1_islymc2 wrote

I got halfway through this guys book before I realized it was basically a bunch of discipline quotes on each page. Kinda cool at first but then got repetitive.

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iammada t1_ismmkh0 wrote

"Jacko"

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-1KingKRool- t1_isnni3e wrote

Was gonna say, isn’t his name Jocko?

Edit: yep, just looked it up and confirmed it’s Jocko Willink, not Jacko.

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Friendlyy_Lemon t1_islq08z wrote

how to build discipline?

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anomnnomnom t1_ism0acv wrote

Something that is often overlooked with self discipline is self compassion, because if you don't have self compassion self discipline will feel very unpleasant and hard to stick at it. Self compassion makes self discipline so much easier.

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tormundgiantbrain t1_isoeour wrote

This is a great perspective! Why be disciplined when you don't think you are worth it? Damn thanks for the early morning paradigm shift

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anomnnomnom t1_isq681e wrote

Not only that, but the way you speak to yourself in the process or "self disciplining." I had a realisation around my own way of treating myself when I thought,

"if I saw someone walking down the street and they had someone walking alongside them speaking to that person the way I speak to myself, what would I think of the person saying those things?"

It suddenly dawned on me how awful I can treat myself and I've been working on it ever since, over 3 years now, and it's made such a difference but I still do it but not as much and stop myself if I am feeling bad about anything unnecessarily, and through working on self compassion, self discipline became something I could stick with because it didn't feel so abusive to myself.

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tormundgiantbrain t1_isq8ajf wrote

I had a very similar experience. Was very carefree and a tad lazy in my teens and early 20s, so mid 20s I started to force myself to be more organized and disciplined which was what I needed honestly but looking back at the self dialogue it was very harsh. Then I got used to that harsh inner voice being the norm and my work ethic and accomplishments just never seemed good enough. I kept the nose to the grindstone but at great personal cost to my happiness and relationships. Now the idea of being disciplined seems kinda icky and I guarantee it is my inner self saying "enough" to the brutal task master. There is a healthy balance in there somewhere and your comment about the self compassion aspect of discipline has totally changed my perspective on it so thank you!

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anomnnomnom t1_isqqd5e wrote

I had a similar realisation where it wasn't the work that was making my body and brain say, "enough" but the abuse I would give myself even just by the feelings of anxiety and stress to "must get it done or else." Was what I couldnt tolerate.

These things can become a habit and we often don't realise I think that it is just a habitual way of thinking and not reality a lot of the time. The same can happen with people who wish to lose weight and they can be skinny but they still have the "habit" of seeing themselves as fat (not the same as anorexia but part of that is habituated behaviours for sure).

A great way to find these troublesome thoughts is by looking for when you are saying to yourself, "should" or "should not" and I have found that questioning these shoulds and should nots has lead me to explore whether they are actually benefiting me or just left over unhelpful ways of being left over from childhood.

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r0ndy t1_islqqsf wrote

Improve your decision making. You have to decide to do the things.

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InjectingMyNuts t1_isoc5hh wrote

How do I decide to do that?

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r0ndy t1_isoe2lq wrote

Haha. It starts with one choice, build on that a habit.

Some habits are easier than others. If you wanted to wake up earlier every day, you could start to do things like setting multiple alarms, or putting the alarms on the other side of the room so you have to get up and move them.

If you keep forgetting which task you're on, you have to ask yourself repeatedly which task did I start and which one am I supposed to finish first.

The more you do these things the more they become those passive habits to help push back against the impulsive and intrusiveness of ADHD

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B3eenthehedges t1_isn84ny wrote

Routine. Everything is tough when you start, but it gets easier every day you do it.

Doesn't mean you can't have motivation, as in reasons you do it, but don't expect to have motivation to do it right then, because you probably won't.

You have to have the discipline to force yourself to do something that you don't feel like doing, until you do, and then you'll be glad you did.

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Aurelius314 t1_isnf0x1 wrote

Start small. Really really small. No, smaller than that.

Start with making a change thats so minuscule that not managing to complete it becomes harder than completing the change itself.

The easier you make it to start and maintain a habit, the easier it will be to get used to the change over time.

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DaveInDigital t1_isndf05 wrote

...yet posted in r/GetMotivated lol

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UCDC t1_isomws3 wrote

When his special ops team was all like "I don't WANNA bomb Fallujah today Jocko!" he hit them with a kamayamaya wave of america discipline and then the battle was won.

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mcarterphoto t1_ispp49u wrote

Never heard of this guy, the comments are pretty funny!

But I agree with the dude. Discipline can be hard if you're not crazy about the tasks ahead.

A big key to being disciplined is to remind yourself that much of the work that requires discipline is work that will pay off, make you level-up, get you closer to your goals or dreams.

A big thing I've learned is to "be nice to your future self". Don't wanna iron a shirt vs. watching netflix, then you get up the next morning for a meeting or whatever and you now have to iron the damn shirt, and ten other things? And you're picturing yourself last night and thinking "you lazy bastard!!!" Do things now that will make your future self like your now-self, do things that are hard but you'll look back and be glad/proud you did them. It's a big part of growing a positive self-image and a belief you can achieve things. Identify behaviors that reinforce a bad self-image or even cause self-loathing, and try to chip away at them.

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Scandroid99 OP t1_isppxe3 wrote

Yea the comments are hilarious lol. I seen someone say somethin about “luck” and wit that mindset I’m sure he/she aren’t where they wanna be in life.

I def agree wit ur statement tho 💪

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mcarterphoto t1_isrcub8 wrote

Hey, I've had some "luck" - not like a trust find (when my mother passed I inherited like $1800, woo hoo!!!!). But my shitshow childhood did instill in me some kind of love of creating things; and I worked like a freakin' dog to find a way to make a living with it. Hell, if you have four limbs and two eyes and are ambulatory, a blind guy in a wheelchair is gonna think you're one lucky bastard, right?

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razorh00f t1_isohjiy wrote

I don’t know what it is but I just do not trust this guy. Seems like the worst kind of platitude-spewing self help guru bullshit as all the others, always harping on about discipline and nothing else.

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guitar-ass t1_ispf68e wrote

I loved Jocko for like two months, and then it was like; yes I know life is hard and only discipline will get you through each day. What about my emotions and insecurities, discipline and hard work. Grandma died? Discipline and hard work…it’s a repetitive message and is not always the best advice.

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ChessieJackson t1_isr6qv4 wrote

He has a kids book that's straight propaganda.

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uneasyonion t1_ispmawy wrote

"It's all hard work and dicipline" says those with great luck. 🙄😮‍💨

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