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magi5e OP t1_is5din0 wrote
I'm curious...Why do you think so?
magi5e OP t1_is5glij wrote
And that's your fair right if you like your Life as it is right now!
QUIBICUS t1_is5gyyo wrote
Now I need to leave the red circle thanks.....
magi5e OP t1_is5higr wrote
You don't need to, but try to imagine how you would want to design your optimal Life... Because that's how you can live, and jumping out maybe is the hardest part. But there's a lot of help out there for exactly that...
ZSpectre t1_is5q0q2 wrote
I think this is particularly applying to people who are stuck in life. People who tend to be stuck here may be fearing the first step to break out into the unknown and out of their comfort zone (i.e. getting over social anxiety in order to meet new people and network, moving to a new area to be open to more job offers, etc.). Some people's comfort zone can be more detrimental than others, and it could parallel the mindset of having a security blanket all the way to having an addictive behavior that's been keeping them stuck. Letting go of that security blanket or those coping mechanisms can be very difficult and anxiety inducing for a lot of people.
magi5e OP t1_is5sxo5 wrote
well yes, that's why it isn't easy to escape but that plays a part in why so many people aren't happy with their lives (even while in their Comfort zones)
Leonos t1_is5ve6g wrote
According to the graph it is an infinitely small step to go from red to dark green if you go left.
Trips-Over-Tail t1_is5vem2 wrote
Mine is all orange.
magi5e OP t1_is5vu9s wrote
The state of fear is probably the most uncomfortable but everyone has to walk through it to reach their higher goals. If you need some help feel free to reach out to me
magi5e OP t1_is5w9pb wrote
well you are right, and it's good to also be aware of the limits of models but I think you conciously want to misunderstand the picture. Models always have their limits but it's way more productive to find the truth in it, the point that can help you advance
chojinra t1_is5y5sk wrote
I think in the east itβs called being a frog in the well.
Tatunkawitco t1_is60o9p wrote
Or just put the comfort zone in the center? Growth can go both ways.
magi5e OP t1_is61mri wrote
I'll keep it in mind thank you
Old_guy_newideas t1_is63v26 wrote
This is great. Worked in information technology for decades. This is very applicable there. Also, this has some use in the Faith world.
sleeping-dragon t1_is65wbm wrote
Living this right now. Took the leap from IT to Operations. As our internal infrastructure / support needs died down I needed to keep myself busy. Now I'm dealing with organization wide budgets, facilities management, and leading teams. I'm probably on the line between yellow and light green.
lightmare178 t1_is66rk6 wrote
What if you went the other directionβ¦
rejuven8 t1_is69faj wrote
Because the comfort zone isnβt necessarily out of fear or more contracted than fear. It can be a new normal created from a previous growth zone expansion.
Inlhia t1_is69oxi wrote
Itβs a little outdated and the graphic is confusing. But itβs a kid-friendly version on how learning works.
Itβs based on Vygotskyβs Zone of Proximal Development from the early 1900s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_proximal_development
Blended with Maslows Hierarchy of needs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs
To create Bloomβs Taxonomy in the 1950s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_taxonomy#/media/File%3ABloom's_Revised_Taxonomy.jpg
And distilled to the βConscious Competenceβ learning model. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence
These frameworks are the very basics of learning. Learning models are still evolving today but this is the best attempt humans have done at mapping how we learn.
There are more frameworks currently being tested but it takes about 20 years soβ¦.
Inlhia t1_is6hy27 wrote
He didnβt make this. Google image βcomfort zoneβ
Fritzo2162 t1_is6k28c wrote
Wow. I created a circle like this in my head when convincing myself to take risks, but I could never articulate it. This is PERFECT!
bartb83 t1_is6ljvn wrote
Seems i'd get squeeezed if i would try that step. Definitely not comfy.
alexplex86 t1_is6r9v6 wrote
But you understand its figurative, that you're supposed to follow the arrow and you understand what's its trying to say?
unagi176 t1_is7224c wrote
Also a big arrow pointing only one way
FartOfTheFurious t1_is7bqc6 wrote
Are you serious?
olak333 t1_is7c43s wrote
These kinds of posts are inspiring. I'd normally take a screenshot of this picture and rotate it as a screensaver picture as background on my tablet or something. But not today. Where's the section for just tired and fed up and static in life. Other ppl can't make me whole, but it's draining and hopeless sometimes. Rant over!
magi5e OP t1_is7d1bj wrote
Thanks I appreciate it
magi5e OP t1_is7d5a6 wrote
Great to hear that you are making progress, is Operations what you truly want to do?
magi5e OP t1_is7d97z wrote
You would fall out of the model into pure nothingness and live in a limbo like state as described in Inception ;)
magi5e OP t1_is7de4g wrote
I love to see Life as a Game, since I implemented that thought even mundane tasks like washing the dishes, going for a walk can feel like a quest and be fun
magi5e OP t1_is7di1b wrote
well in that case the model yould just repeat itself in itself
magi5e OP t1_is7dr7s wrote
They are a great example for the way society thinks. It's a short term solution not designed to help longterm, but just like politicians only thinking of the next election, some doctors just think if the next recipe they can prescribe you. There are longterm solutions out there! They are just not as easy or comfortable
magi5e OP t1_is7dwio wrote
Let's goo, Green is where Life begins because somewhere on the way you swtich your thinking from Survival to Living
SulavT t1_is7e29q wrote
Switching my thinking and working on my mindset was the best thing I couldβve done for myself. I wish they taught this in the schools.
magi5e OP t1_is7ehgp wrote
Thanks I really appreciate that. Being able to express yourself and your thoughts clearly is a really valuable skill. If you are interested I could show you
magi5e OP t1_is7emna wrote
Dude it's just a model, no need to overanalyse things
magi5e OP t1_is7f96a wrote
Love to hear that, since I just found my project. Can I ask what yours is?
magi5e OP t1_is7flor wrote
Thanks for the feedback. If you feel stuck in Life, like you don't know what to do, everything is just exhausting and you don't really see the point in things, it doesn't have to be this way, I can help you!
magi5e OP t1_is7fsow wrote
Yes I have the exact same thinking... That's why I wanna do my part and teach it to as many people as I can to reach my vision of the future
magi5e OP t1_is7g4d7 wrote
Do you also think I should put the circles in the center?
Poknberry t1_is7gqjv wrote
So a vet coming back from Iraq with night terrors is just taking the easy way out? Okay buddy
Don't let the bogus war on drugs brainwash you into thinking drugs are inherently bad, its the abuse of drugs that's bad, not the drugs themselves.
magi5e OP t1_is7h5e0 wrote
I actually like a lot of drugs myself and think every medication has it's uses, but they often don't solve the problem at its root but rather let you forget it exists for a short time. A vet coming back from Iraq needs therapy, needs to talk about his terrible experiences and deal with them over time
RightBear t1_is7h7zj wrote
Hey, don't take it personally! Thanks for making the content.
It's weird to me because I don't really know how the circles relate to the concepts. When you are in the fear zone (orange circle), is the "comfort zone" also supposed to be included in the orange circle? I'd instead think of it as moving away from a comfort zone and into a fear zone.
I guess I do like the idea that the "growth" zone is literally the biggest, and that when you are in the growth zone you still have elements of "learning" and "fear".
magi5e OP t1_is7hl8w wrote
I usually don't take thingts personally, I like to get valuable criticism. I think the circles should include themselves, because you will still have a comfort zone (even if it changes) you will probably still be afraid of something and you will for sure keep learning your whole life especially when you have arrived at green
PIMP1729 t1_is7k3sd wrote
Thanks really apreciate it and mine it's about video games and yours?
magi5e OP t1_is7lxn0 wrote
Mine is building a Life Coaching practice where I help young individuals that are lost in Life to get things back under control and achieve their dreams
I love games btw. As a teenager I would play 10h of Minecraft or lol a day xD
donfuego008 t1_is7pspo wrote
I love a great meaning in this and powerful message! Itβs is true to escape comfort with fear, zone five is danger zone, where I am at πΆβπ«οΈ
magi5e OP t1_is7pwat wrote
what's the danger zone?
PIMP1729 t1_is7w3ys wrote
That's great man, minecraft is good for relax mental, do you have any instagram account to follow you? I like follow some coach
enHancedBacon t1_is7w5i1 wrote
Thank you.
woodneel t1_is88mkp wrote
Nice links. Vygotsky and Bloom I hadn't heard of before. I love the historicity of your post, people always gloss over WHEN the theories they're teaching were formed, thus robbing the learner of the potential to critique and contrast said new learning in the context of the academic and social zeitgeist of the era.
Cylon_Skin_Job_2_10 t1_is88yb1 wrote
I appreciate the sentiment, but I think we have to look at it more like pushing out of comfort into βdiscomfortβ but not βdistressβ. If we bite off more than we can chew and get too overwhelmed, we pull back into comfort, catch our breath and go back out into discomfort again. In time, as we adapt, the comfort zone gets bigger and bigger and the things that once were uncomfortable are now comfortable, and so we push into discomfort again.
I donβt think itβs as simple as pushing past fear straight into growth and opportunity, but more like gradually decreasing what makes you fearful and gradually finding growth and more opportunity through this process.
Inlhia t1_is89jjc wrote
Our educational system is ancient compared to technology. But compared to time, itβs revolutionary.
The wide-spread access of the internet was only 15 years ago. It drastically transformed the world. Itβs still transforming the world.
Weβre all living in a time that history books will have chapters on.
Inspector-Tophat t1_is8og37 wrote
Missing depression zone, lost zone and screwed up zone.
Ash_Divine t1_is8qh4z wrote
Don't think you can call it growth if you start regressing
Ash_Divine t1_is8qmrl wrote
I like my comfort zone very much but I know it harms me more than it helps me.
konvictjeans t1_is8slcw wrote
The green part always seems to pass me by.
Garlicvine t1_is9bjgl wrote
In the orange for a long time now.
Chomusuke_99 t1_is9g1vc wrote
between comfort zone and anxiety fear zone. there is an achievement zone. that makes you feel like you have done something new and accomplished something. then you invest more and then the fear, low confidence and anxiety kick in. I experience this everytime I try to learn something new. like as simple as bottle flip challenge. first it's exciting. a few lucky shots boosts your morale. you try to make more consistent shot and feel like your skill is actually degrading the more your practice. then little by little you make improvement in a micro scale.
magi5e OP t1_is9i2w9 wrote
Yeah it's keilholz_coaching but I'm just setting it up so nothing yet, but there's new content coming in soon!
magi5e OP t1_is9i400 wrote
you're welcome. Are you struggling with your comfort zone?
enHancedBacon t1_is9i5dw wrote
Nope not at all I just say thanx to good posts
magi5e OP t1_is9i6e9 wrote
thanks for the ideas
magi5e OP t1_is9ie43 wrote
they're all part of the comfort zone. Because you don't have the courage to break out even though your unconciousness knows there's more to Life, you are in a fight with yourself thus arising your mentioned problems.If you are suffering from them I would advise to you to get help. I am available if you'd like
magi5e OP t1_is9ifpr wrote
Break out! It's so worth it
If you don't know how let me help you
Smackanacho t1_is9igig wrote
Love the concept, huge advocate, but this graph doesnβt make sense. Itβs only by staying in the fear zone do we learn, and then grow. Itβs not like you leave the fear zone and then learn.
magi5e OP t1_is9igvr wrote
That means you still have more to learn
magi5e OP t1_is9ihs4 wrote
magi5e OP t1_is9iirm wrote
sorry to hear that! Want some help?
magi5e OP t1_is9ikhk wrote
thanks for the idea
magi5e OP t1_is9iloo wrote
glad to hear that, keep it up!
magi5e OP t1_is9ipoc wrote
Once you pass through the fear zone, the first thing you learn is that your fear was unneccessary and that makes it so much easier to learn more. Do you constantly learn with fear in your mind?
konvictjeans t1_is9is9o wrote
Cool. Iβll just dream bigger and achieve my goals.
konvictjeans t1_is9iyu5 wrote
Achieve your goals bud and hope life doesnβt bite you in the ass when you least expect it.
FluffyBauce t1_is9jezb wrote
What if people taking risks to find happiness were never in their comfort zone and are now looking for their comfort zone.
I understand the term, but i hate how its used by all these so called life coaches and corporate douches.
Whats wrong with your comfort zone if you are happy there (for now).
magi5e OP t1_is9jjk0 wrote
it sure will, but i hope to have built up enough resilience when that time comes
magi5e OP t1_is9joy0 wrote
it's a model so it has it's limits, you are right... This is just how it is for most people
There's nothing wrong with your comfort zone if you are truly happy with your life, but if you want more out of it (like most poeple do) it often holds you back
konvictjeans t1_is9k41q wrote
You are absolutely right. I hope that I can get a second wind and find a sense of optimism again. Thanks for your input.
Background_Sun9822 t1_is9l7w0 wrote
What is your advice in this state ? I am 28, have adhd, No Job. Bad univeristy degree
PM_ME_UR_ANKLET t1_is9lteu wrote
I find the implication that you can't grow as a person outside your comfort level condescending.
magi5e OP t1_is9m9ea wrote
Do you want some help?
konvictjeans t1_is9mdqg wrote
That a nice offer. I am never against taking suggestions.
magi5e OP t1_is9me9u wrote
Take the time to think about what you really want to do in your life, because once you work with passion, wou won't mind walking the extra mile it takes to be successful
Also I specialise in helping young adults reach their goals and unleash their full potential (first session is free)
magi5e OP t1_is9mjot wrote
it's a model, so not supposed to take everything literally, but your comfort zone is your comfort zone because you know it you like it and there's nothing new in there. growing means thinking, feeling, doing new stuff which all means leaving your physical or mental comfort zone
magi5e OP t1_is9mwof wrote
I specialize in helping young adults in getting their Life in order and finding a purpose to live the life they dream about. First session is free. Interested?
konvictjeans t1_is9n5lw wrote
I appreciate the offer, but I am almost 40 years old and have extenuating circumstances that could complicate any professional relationship.
magi5e OP t1_is9nd4r wrote
okay that's fair. The offer stands though since I am still in my beginning phase and want to try helping different people, I actually have one other client of similar age, and I love complicated stuff
konvictjeans t1_is9nmg3 wrote
Complicated is an odd way to put it. Also, your replies to other folkβs critical comments kind of scared me off.
magi5e OP t1_is9nreq wrote
mindlesslytired t1_is9o41p wrote
I could never
magi5e OP t1_is9o68l wrote
Please don't think that, everybody can!
mindlesslytired t1_is9ocdm wrote
I struggle with social anxiety, If I tried I could get to fear zone but thatβs about it hahah, Iβll keep trying though lol! thank you for this
magi5e OP t1_is9ofxe wrote
Once you enter fear zone you will quickly realize that the fear was noch neccessary at all and advance to Learning, just keep going!
Also if you want some help I can do that
konvictjeans t1_is9qgzi wrote
More than I would like to admit to on any online platform. In short, I have felt depressed ectβ¦for about 25 years and have taken countless meds/therapy. Nothing has helped over that period of time.also, I am broke and cannot pay for your services.
Ash_Divine t1_is9r6ny wrote
Tell me how
konvictjeans t1_is9roym wrote
I do not understand why fear leads to possible success.
konvictjeans t1_is9rtgt wrote
Can you hook me up with a decent job in rural California with limited college experience and a mess of mental issues?
Dorsiflexionkey t1_is9tkeo wrote
Reddit: The place that motivates you until you read the comment section and end up wanting to die.
magi5e OP t1_is9tpmr wrote
sorry to hear that, I really hope you will find something that helps!
I am happy to help you in exchange for a testemonial where you state how I helped (if I helped). Any way I will gain experience and new insights.
Also I would love to hear your criticism on my comments so that I can improve on that as well
magi5e OP t1_is9tr9m wrote
I'd actually prefer to tell you over texting you, if you're interested
magi5e OP t1_is9tto0 wrote
maybe I didn't write that clearly enough, my mistake. Not the fear itself but overcoming it will help you succeed
magi5e OP t1_is9twnq wrote
no only you can do that. But I could try to help you get in the state where you are able to help yourself
konvictjeans t1_is9txmy wrote
Ok cool. I did respond to a couple of your comments already. Iβm not sure if it is constructive criticism or not.
magi5e OP t1_is9ty2w wrote
haha alright, thanks for the comment
magi5e OP t1_is9u0tb wrote
you should always do what YOU want, not what society tells you to
magi5e OP t1_is9u3l1 wrote
unfortunately Life isn't as easy as following an arrow but I hope this gives some inspiration on what to do
LukaszWiktor t1_is9u8c5 wrote
If so then comfort zone is a terribly inaccurate name.
magi5e OP t1_is9ut9k wrote
How would you call it?
magi5e OP t1_is9uvah wrote
hahaha I hope that's Not the case for you
konvictjeans t1_is9vble wrote
Easier said than done when there are no jobs and nepotism runs rampant. Have you ever lived rurally?
LukaszWiktor t1_is9vpmy wrote
something opposite to growth, stalled zone, stuck zone, maybe even shrink zone
LukaszWiktor t1_is9waqn wrote
shrink zone seems the most accurate since it has two complementary meanings:
- to become smaller, or to make something smaller
- to move away from someone or something because you are frightened
magi5e OP t1_is9ycjf wrote
nobody said it would be easy
I don't know if this helps you, but have you tried building up some knowledge and skill in an area that you are passionate about in order to build confidence in it and maybe find a job there?
magi5e OP t1_is9ydoz wrote
appreciated
magi5e OP t1_is9yvul wrote
I get your point but I just believe that even when you are comfy you can feel negative emotions, that's how it was for me and many others I talked to. Also the model is supposed to motivate people and a shrinking zone doesn't really sound motivating. But I appreciate your input a lot!
PIMP1729 t1_isaq393 wrote
Great! I'll follow there
ct1192 t1_iscqe3n wrote
comfort and fear are both feelings, learning and growth are just conceps, why does it go...feeling, feeling, concept, concept? can one not be comfortable or fearful as they grow and learn?
i think its a great representation of a flawed idea that you wont understand something unless you seek discomfort and experienfe fear first.
enduring_student t1_iscsimg wrote
I find this very interesting because I never thought of it like that, not specifically anyway...
Thank you for the new perspective.
Garlicvine t1_isdwxda wrote
Thanks for asking. Just hanging in here.
m0rzor t1_iselidd wrote
what you want is a product of the society and culture you lived in
magi5e OP t1_isf37sq wrote
True for most people, but once you truly connect with yourself and understand yourself you will get to the bottom of what YOU want
magi5e OP t1_isfxv1u wrote
Don't give up! You can escape orange, I know it
magi5e OP t1_isfy968 wrote
There's a lot more where that came from ;)
Garlicvine t1_isgh1r0 wrote
Thank you for motivation. π
magi5e OP t1_isgkvn6 wrote
You're welcome
Ochnee t1_is5deyf wrote
This seems wrong...?