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elpajaroquemamais t1_irvpcp2 wrote

This is by definition survivorship bias.

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Zachariot88 t1_irwa0dn wrote

Yeah, pour one out for all the homies that were correct about not making it through something.

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Rrraou t1_irwtg3n wrote

Those moments when it feels so wrong to be right.

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kris_mischief t1_irx4oj8 wrote

Actually, it’s not because it’s not stating that anyone else can be successful based on someone else’s success.

It’s simply reminding you that you’ve always managed to defy your own internal negative monologue.

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elpajaroquemamais t1_irxcty9 wrote

If only there was a word that meant: continue to live or exist, especially in spite of danger or hardship.

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kris_mischief t1_irxq3aj wrote

Perseverance ;)

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elpajaroquemamais t1_irxs75y wrote

Survive. Survive is the word I was referencing.

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kris_mischief t1_irxtm6q wrote

LOL sure :) but this image still isn’t survivorship bias

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elpajaroquemamais t1_irxu4s7 wrote

How? It’s assuming you’ll always make it in the future because you made it in the past despite not everyone making it in the past.

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kris_mischief t1_irxv3uh wrote

The image isn’t referencing anyone but yourself.

It’s telling you that every time you’ve doubted yourself, you were wrong. So stop doubting yourself :) (or maybe, doubt yourself less)

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elpajaroquemamais t1_irxywrs wrote

Yes, and it’s extrapolating that because you were always fine in the past, you will always be fine in the future. You won’t.

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kris_mischief t1_irybyaw wrote

Well at least now we agree that this is all about the readers internal dialogue :)

I don’t disagree with your last post; all of us will die at some point, so once in your lifetime this post won’t be true.

Overwhelmingly, however, throughout your life, this will be true on many more occasions than the one time when it won’t.

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elpajaroquemamais t1_irycu6w wrote

You might not win the competition. You might not get the job. Acceptance of that needs to be part of it.

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FemtoKitten t1_irxcwgy wrote

I mean for non lethal internal monologues they might still be going. And for lethal ones well obviously only the people who didn't fall to despair would be able to read this.

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Somestunned t1_irxgcmh wrote

We all survive every hardship. Except for the last one.

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elpajaroquemamais t1_irxln1g wrote

I agree with that part. It’s the “it’s going to be ok” that I don’t.

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SoTaxMuchCPA t1_irw4l4b wrote

Sure but the only people alive to see this are the survivors of the past.

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elpajaroquemamais t1_irw4unc wrote

Sure but it’s a little dismissive. It might not be okay.

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j5a9 t1_irwsai0 wrote

But natural selection has already weeded out a lot of the people for whom it won’t be ok, so you’re reading this, the odds are in your favor.

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Suyefuji t1_irx64ca wrote

Yeah, what does this mean for people who survived but were permanently injured? "Survival" is a terrible measurement of success.

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Barziboy t1_irw8tlr wrote

Yeh definitely. I'll see you guys in the next life.

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MaznSpooderman t1_iry0u7d wrote

Pessimism's a bitch huh

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elpajaroquemamais t1_iry21uj wrote

I’m a super positive person but this is dumb. There are better ways to get across the same idea without a literal logical fallacy.

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MaznSpooderman t1_iry38qx wrote

Different strokes for different folks I guess

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elpajaroquemamais t1_iry3be7 wrote

Yeah some folks like things that are actually motivating.

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MaznSpooderman t1_iry3s3q wrote

Damn dude, it's a picture on the internet. If some people find it helpful, what's the problem?

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elpajaroquemamais t1_iry3wwv wrote

If some don’t, what’s the problem? You’re the one who keeps trying to convince me.

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MaznSpooderman t1_iry4k5u wrote

Nah, this is just a product of your unconvincing argument. The problem with your statement is it ASSUMES survivors bias. It depends on the origins of the statement and the reality of the artists situation. That's why I find it needlessly negative and thus pessimistic.

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elpajaroquemamais t1_iry6tz2 wrote

I don’t have to assume anything. It’s telling someone that because they survived something (something that others may not have survived) that they will always survive other things in the future (they won’t).

A better less derivative way of saying the same thing would be:

Remember when you thought you couldn’t do it? Well, you proved yourself wrong. You did it. Keep that in mind next time you have doubts.

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wholesome_cream t1_iryaflr wrote

Well yes but if you're alive and you read this post, provided that your mind told you at least one time you wouldn't make it through, it's an undeniably true statement.

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Sohodolls t1_irv6igi wrote

Thanks for this <3

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stoneandglass t1_iry0887 wrote

Check out The Latest Kate, the artist. She has an email newsletter that sends a daily image with some words like this. I save them all and open them on days I need them.

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Starklet t1_irw3f3a wrote

Until you don't...

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scotty3281 t1_irvmcnb wrote

I don’t really have any words right now.

In June, I realized I was trans. Crazy to think but ever since then, my mind has been telling me all kinds of negative things about how this will go. As you might have guessed, my entire life I have been filled with self-doubt, low self-esteem, no self-confidence. This has led to me continuously questioning whether or not I really am making the right decision despite what I know and everyone in my life has told me repeatedly in the last six months.

Today, is another big step in my transition as I go to the doctor for HRT. I didn’t sleep at all last night, and I’ve been a nervous wreck. At one point I even considered just ghosting my doctor and paying whatever cancellation fee. It’s silly really. I know what I need but my mind is using 38 years of professional self-gaslighting to make me stay in this miserable existence simply because it is comfortable and it is a known thing.

This image… I cannot tell you how much these words mean. In the last six months, all of these doubts and negative thoughts have been wrong. I know this negative thought about HRT being wrong for me is also wrong.

Thank you very much.

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kinderhooksurprise t1_irxb5op wrote

Do we matter? Perhaps that's a shit question. Who do you matter to? That's a bit better. How else can we ask... Do you want to matter to others? Do others matter to you? If so, why? What's the benefit of having others matter to you, and you to them? What are the cons of not mattering? Is it worth the effort to find others to care about?

These are the deeper questions that help me. Our minds have not evolved for so long to be isolated without people caring for us and vice versa. Take that away, then there goes one of our core pillars.

Our system has enslaved us. We sell our time, and when the culture has taught us that our value is based on our ability to make money for our family, then our value is doomed. Gotta redefine where our value is. It's possible and not a lie or trick. Human connection, bond, and growth is where I get my value. Deep connections with those close to me, focusing on where I can legit make an impact without over extending myself.

Sorry for the sermon. I love our species, even though we seem doomed to praise and promote our slavers. But there is enlightenment happening. It's possible that each generation can inch us closer to a world we want. Hell, if our generation can maneuver there way out of religion to secularism, without destroying ourselves, I call that a win. We are pushing back on so many fronts, but it's bad rn. It is. Facts. I believe this is a huge pivot point in the human experience. Just look at our welcoming back of psychedelics.

But the ruling class will not go out quietly. Your value being found in production is exactly what they want. You got this my friend. I hope I do to. I hope we all do.

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Pink_Flash t1_irxunxp wrote

I completely feel that.

Along with all that shit I just got ghosted again after trying to reach out. Nope, just another reminder that I don't matter.

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happy_little_indian t1_irvkql7 wrote

This is lovely and a great way to look forward without being overwhelmed by the possibility of failure. That being said, I keep seeing the neck fur on the fox as it’s lips. Love it.

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Chipbread t1_irvsm1e wrote

In contrast, almost every time my mind told me I would make it through, it was wrong.

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Voldymoldy7 t1_irvogiz wrote

I was having a pretty rough day. Thanks for this :,)

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RxHappy t1_irwe3vc wrote

I am invincible!! As long as I’m alive

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thaddeus423 t1_irvl97q wrote

That mind. Always playing tricks on us. Even when we think we’re the ones in charge.

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666inyoursight t1_irvta3o wrote

Very true but also elegant and assuring.

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AffinityGauntlet t1_irvwm2p wrote

I think about this a lot. Thanks for sharing OP.

In a similar vein I like to think: there’s a chance the worst day of my life is already past me. Can you imagine? That feeling alone gives me everything I need to continue forward

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Wendybird13 t1_irvx91h wrote

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ailingswan t1_irvylxz wrote

Wow, can't tell you how necessary this was!

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jack27nikkkk t1_irw9rvj wrote

but still why🥲 I dont think I don't have anything to be exist

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Light-Burst t1_irwh60y wrote

Really needed this. Thank you <3

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Jens223 t1_irww1l5 wrote

I rlly needed this, tmr i got my driving exam...

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SuicidalLettuce t1_irx2dl0 wrote

Me laying in bed with a weighted blanket, I needed this, thank you.

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JMKraft t1_irvuapp wrote

Why did this picture give me the huge existential dread of being a lost animal in a dark forest with 0 fucking clue if I'll ever find food or even live to see the sunrise?

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BleuSansFil t1_irvumpf wrote

I can't unseen lips in the middle of the fox neck

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TheRealMudi t1_irw0p39 wrote

Shit, for the first time in my life, thank you

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-Mr_Unknown- t1_irw17ae wrote

and my favourite animal, thank you :)

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iaintlyon t1_irw2v81 wrote

The floof on the fox’s neck look like its lips

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NoDramaIceberg t1_irw88as wrote

Except that one time when you won't make it, but it'll be peaceful.

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Mastertimelord t1_irwkscz wrote

My issue is I know I’ll make it through and I don’t want to. It has never been ok.

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Trips-Over-Tail t1_irwlyj5 wrote

All the terrible things my mind told me turned out to be correct. That many of these reveals happened during CBT completely scuppered my therapy and left me worse off than before.

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UWO_Throw_Away t1_irwpdp4 wrote

Fox, “I gotta stop eating those fermented berries. I’m talking to the trees again!”

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neos7m t1_irwpy0q wrote

What do you mean? I haven't made it through the storm yet

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BlazeBurst01 t1_irxgzy8 wrote

To all the people in the comments talking about survivorship bias and all the negativity, we don't need you here. There's people that are really struggling, and an encouraging world is literally gold out there. If you believe it enough, nothing can stop you. Your mind will play tricks to you all the time, but you need to be strong! I believe in you all. Stay hard!

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Wraith-Gear t1_irxhucj wrote

Don’t listen to that! Will-o-whisps lead people astray to kill them! /s

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RonjaSif t1_irxlkvq wrote

Thank you i needed that 🥰

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that_one_wierd_guy t1_irxlvvp wrote

be a lot more convincing if it weren't a will o' the wisp delivering the message

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Rainbike80 t1_irxrg5c wrote

Damn fox made me cry...

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captnmrgn24 t1_irxvtch wrote

But still. No one knows what you say!

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SirJ4ck t1_irxzwwl wrote

Except me, I never make it through lol

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mathaiser t1_iry09er wrote

That’s just survivorship bias. That doesn’t prove anything.

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tslnox t1_iry1sv6 wrote

Hey! Listen!

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cyberbae t1_iry63g2 wrote

I needed this today, thank you

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dzic91 t1_iryd0l6 wrote

Smart fox, I like it.

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Skglass19 t1_iryf06c wrote

I wish this was true.

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Lma_Roe t1_iryjbim wrote

You're never enough.

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Nailkita t1_iryl8ov wrote

I love latest Kate I have a wish list forever long

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Catbunny123 t1_irym1m7 wrote

The only barrier is our minds. As long as we persist we will get whatever we want. ❤️

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nCRedditor-21 t1_irypz2m wrote

The Latest Kate is amazing, she’s got a mailing list which,if you sign up to, sends out 3 motivational pictures every morning 👍

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DoubtALot t1_irz4nrt wrote

hacks, of course if you didnt youd be dead and wouldnt/couldnt care

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enduring_student t1_irzqvji wrote

I know this, but it's nice to have a reminder too. Thank you.

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ICHHASSEMICHSOSEHR t1_is0ca3w wrote

It won't be okay. Nothing will ever be okay again. I can't wait to finally die

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waterking t1_is1a4n7 wrote

Dead men tell no tails.

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Adony_ t1_irx5e6m wrote

Survivor bias, until you aren't.

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sneaky_squirrel t1_irw41md wrote

Well, TECHNICALLY the people who didn't make it would not be alive to see this poster.

So I do agree with the caption, can't be wrong if it is not read by a counter example.

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