Made in China. Beijing will invest in its own AI chats

Submitted by MINE_exchange t3_1123997 in Futurology

China has officially entered the AI chat race. The Beijing Bureau of Economics and Information Technology will support open-source projects that create neural networks like ChatGPT. The starting point of the global race was not chosen by chance. Beijing has the most significant number of AI companies.

Unlike primary Internet resources such as Google, Facebook, or Wikipedia, ChatGPT does not fall under the authorities' censorship and is freely available to Chinese users. Among the 90 chat languages, there is also Chinese.

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YuanBaoTW t1_j8jc242 wrote

> Beijing has the most significant number of AI companies.

So significant in fact that they were too busy to come up with ChatGPT-like solutions first.

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mattstorm360 t1_j8n2s6h wrote

You try making ChatGPT solution that lies about June 5th.

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[deleted] t1_j8n0kqu wrote

I guess quality really is better than quantity.

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oldcreaker t1_j8l3q37 wrote

Imagine an AI that not only talks to you but reports any activity it believes the government wouldn't like. An AI that starts asking you questions.

AIBigBrotherChat

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MHwtf t1_j8m1egw wrote

Nah they'll have to figure out how to survive big brother before contemplating on becoming big brother. Imagine sifting your training data through a sieve, whose arbitrarily-shaped holes are constantly changing based on the latest opinions from the bureaucracy. Oh and they might just have to teach AI how to recognize abstract sarcasms.

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Warm-Personality8219 t1_j8k4eg0 wrote

>Unlike primary Internet resources such as Google, Facebook, or Wikipedia, ChatGPT does not fall under the authorities' censorship and is freely available to Chinese users.

Could it be because they can make it say whatever the f*ck they want it to say?

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CopeH1984 t1_j8kebx9 wrote

What they mean to say is that they'll steal AI tech from outside sources.

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Bhuvahet_12 t1_j8lqvqe wrote

Bro this subreddit has just fallen in AI shit, i regularly get some stupid AI news everyday on ma feed not gud.

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jnemesh t1_j8k8rvf wrote

LOL, sure. And if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn! How, exactly, are they going to have cutting edge AI without any chips to run it on?

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Royal_Intention_8282 t1_j8ko8sc wrote

Lol don’t blindly believe things you hear about non-allied countries from allied centric sources. China’s entire economy has been built on reverse engineering technologies and stealing IP. To think they have no plans to manufacture their own chips is just silly.

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22grande22 t1_j8l0aae wrote

You don't just build chips dude. The plants that make them take like a decade to build. By the time china builds these out they will be way behind.

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jnemesh t1_j8nigqb wrote

And they can build all of the "factories" they want...without the MACHINES that can produce the chips, all of the buildings in the world won't help them!

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22grande22 t1_j8nn0f4 wrote

The factory is the machine you dipshit. Google what a chip factory looks like

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22grande22 t1_j8nn2a8 wrote

The factory is the machine. Google what a chip factory looks like

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Royal_Intention_8282 t1_j8l0pvc wrote

China has already replicated lithography machines and has several chip manufacturing plants. Once again, don’t blindly believe allied sources on news about non-allied countries.

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22grande22 t1_j8l151g wrote

You realize there are different kinds and grades of chips right? Just cause they can make a toy frog sing doesn't mean they can make high-end military type chips.

One of the main reasons the US cut them off is cause they were putting us chips in their military hardware.

Nobody's blindly believing anything but you're sure out here spreading bullshit.

.......and your a china shill. Go figure. Go fuck yourself dude

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Royal_Intention_8282 t1_j8l1btl wrote

You’re very stupid honestly. China at present has the ability to manufacture chips for almost every type of commonly used device.

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CaptainCAPSLOCKED t1_j8l6dae wrote

Great. Then there is no reason for them to be bothered by being cut off from western chips.

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Royal_Intention_8282 t1_j8l96gt wrote

You don’t understand politics. America has enough oil reserves to power the country for a very long time. Do you think America would not be bothered if OPAC cut them off from oil?

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jnemesh t1_j8ni9gg wrote

It appears that we have a better grasp on the politics and reality in general, than you do!

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AmeriToast t1_j8lkofv wrote

China can make low end chips right now. They lack the ability to make high end chips currently because they have not been able to steal the tech yet. So they have been cut off to make it harder to steal it.

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jnemesh t1_j8nicjh wrote

They don't have EUV, and they never will. Nor will they be able to make the newer lithography machines that are replacing EUV.

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jnemesh t1_j8ni61n wrote

They can't replicate the high end chips, nor the lithography machines to make them. They HAVE shown samples of "7nm" chips, but can't produce them at scale. below 7nm, forget it. You aren't a very good China troll are you?

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-08-10/china-has-painted-itself-into-a-semiconductor-corner-behind-taiwan-south-korea

Facts still matter.

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Royal_Intention_8282 t1_j8njzkm wrote

Yea, once again a dumb American believing anything American publications tell them about the rest of the world even when all evidence shows it to be untrue.

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Redditing-Dutchman t1_j8krywf wrote

They will have it. They will just be more expensive as they need to buy it from another country for example.

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jnemesh t1_j8nevlu wrote

They can try to skirt sanctions, sure...but 1) any country caught helping them will also face repercussions, and 2) China doesn't have a culture of innovation. Anyone who can think for themselves is usually, fired, imprisoned, or shot.

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Big420BabyJesus t1_j8kpjjc wrote

that’s cute, since they have stolen everyone else’s technology

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[deleted] t1_j8n0xel wrote

Pretty sure that's how they're planning on creating their chatgpt clone?

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Tnuvu t1_j8ii0bk wrote

The issue there is, the chinese government hasn't exactly been transparent with a lot of things that affected the entire world, not just their people, so this could potentially go horribly wrong, if their AI doesn't respect the needed restraints on A.I.

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AmeriToast t1_j8ll3tp wrote

User: what happened on June 5th 1989 on tiananmen square?

ChinaGPT: Absolutely nothing, there was a party and it was great. Everyone celebrated the glorious CCP. Chinese re-education authorities have been alerted to your location and will be there soon to re-educate you and your social credit score has been adjusted to reflect that. Also you have been volunteered to participate in the organ donation program. Thank you for using ChinaGPT.

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any1particular t1_j8o1ges wrote

Chat GPT:

I am wondering what a Chinese Chat GPT would write about Tiananmen Square Massacre ?

As an AI language model, I do not have personal opinions or feelings, but I can provide a sample of what a Chinese Chat GPT might say in response to your question.
A Chinese Chat GPT might provide a more positive spin on the events of June 4th, 1989, in line with the official stance of the Chinese government. For example, it might say that the government's actions were necessary to restore law and order and prevent a potential destabilization of the country. It might also downplay the severity of the incident or suggest that it has been blown out of proportion by the Western media.
However, it is important to note that the Chinese government has strictly censored discussion of the Tiananmen Square Massacre within China, so it is unlikely that a Chinese Chat GPT would openly discuss the incident in any detail. It is also worth remembering that any opinions expressed by a Chat GPT are purely fictional and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of any real-life individuals or organizations.

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Chat GPT:

what happened on June 5th 1989 on tiananmen square?

On June 5th, 1989, Chinese military troops violently cleared Tiananmen Square in Beijing, China of pro-democracy protesters. The protesters had been occupying the square for several weeks to demand political and economic reforms and an end to government corruption.
The Chinese government had declared martial law in May 1989 and began using force to disperse the protesters on June 4th, resulting in a violent crackdown in which many demonstrators were killed, injured, or arrested. The exact number of casualties remains unknown, but it is believed that hundreds, if not thousands, of people were killed or injured.
The event, known as the Tiananmen Square Massacre, was a turning point in China's modern history and became an international symbol of state repression and authoritarianism. The Chinese government subsequently imposed strict censorship on any discussion of the event, and many aspects of it remain taboo in China to this day.

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ovirt001 t1_j8zqgoc wrote

China will create a crappy knock-off that will provide state-approved responses. It will have no useful impact on anyone and will be dropped.

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AwesomeDragon97 t1_j8hw9hu wrote

It’s honestly depressing that the Chinese AI will be less censored than the Western ones.

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Plane_Reflection_313 t1_j8iuf3m wrote

This is probably the dumbest take possible. Chinese chat it’s will be operating off of the Chinese internet… which is censored…

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MHwtf t1_j8m091u wrote

The most recent contender from Baidu got taken down just because it made blunt assessment on Chinese economy. "It'll be less censored" my dude what pill you on about 😅

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Imaginary_Passage431 t1_j8hrc70 wrote

Amazing! Ironically we will have to use China’s AI chatbots to bypass the censorship in the western world lol

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Gazwa_e_Nunnu_Chamdi t1_j8in8kp wrote

if you ask wrong questions you get -2000 social credit points.

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