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asyrin25 t1_j9utgp0 wrote

Reply to comment by Asleep_Barracuda4781 in What happens to the education system when AI answers our thoughts on demand? by Workerhard62

Counterpoint:

Now that my cars and phones have had nav for years, I know how to get to most places within 5 square miles of my house, and that's it.

This is theoretically a problem when I don't have access to the tech.

This has never happened and would take a near apocalypse event to happen.

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Asleep_Barracuda4781 t1_j9uz51e wrote

How is this a conterpoint? It proves my point. Either you have been educated in how to read a map and road signs and therefore could navigate without GPS navigation, or you would be screwed without your phone or car.

If you ever have to borrow someone else's car or rent a car that doesn't have nav, and your phone's battery runs out of energy...then you're reliant on your previous education. It doesnt take an apocalypse.

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asyrin25 t1_j9v5y8v wrote

If I'm in a car, I have something to plug my phone into. I then have Google Maps.

If I didn't have my phone, where would I even get a map? They don't sell them at gas stations anymore and I certainly don't keep a map book in the car. Being able to read road signs isn't remarkably useful for navigating somewhere you don't know how to get to. That requires an understanding of the layout of the streets and freeway system, the former of which doesn't even necessarily have a logic to it.

That understanding is only useful in a nearly catastrophic situation. One neither I nor anyone I know has run into in recent memory.

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Asleep_Barracuda4781 t1_j9v83nh wrote

Yes, today's navigation infrastructure within cities is quite robust. You probably won't have to worry about not having at least indirect access to Google Maps unless the GPS or telecom networks go down.

I still don't see how this is a counterpoint. OP's question assumed AI is instanteously available and implied that this means you would just rely on the AI for all info and direction in life. (At least the recent similar questions have all hinted at this) My point is no infrastructure is perfect, infomation transfer takes time which you don't always have, and finally knowledge doesn't equate to understanding or give you the ability to apply the knowledge.
Therefore you will still need to learn, memorize, and practice stuff in anticipation of needing it later or to provide a foundation to build further learning on. Is that not a working definition of education?

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asyrin25 t1_j9v8xb3 wrote

My counterpoint is that, at least in my case, technology has caused me to forget that education. I lack the ability to navigate far without the tech because those skills are no longer used. In theory, I could spend the time and effort to educate myself but with the tech so reliable, my chances of getting a benefit from doing so are very small. Even if I spent the time, the tech performs the task better than I could. Maps has access to life traffic data, for example.

So, to OP's point, what other skills will we lose once technology makes them defunct?

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