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superzimbiote t1_j8gk85y wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Drawing the line between positive use of technology and degeneracy by [deleted]

Where are you getting this idea that it’s society’s right to judge people’s “bizarre” behaviors?

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[deleted] OP t1_j8gla8x wrote

If a substantial majority of people don't want to be around someone because he or she is doing something that is seen as gross or weird, I don't see anything wrong with this. Obviously, if it is harmless, they should be allowed to continue doing it but people should not be forced to accept them for it if they don't want to. This is what I mean by "judging."

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EnomLee t1_j8h2bsv wrote

Well going by the vote counts, a substantial majority of people don't want to be around you. Are you going to respect their will?

Or nah?

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superzimbiote t1_j8glvmt wrote

We put up with weird shit all the time because that’s what tolerance entails. And also weird sexual acts or practices or things like religious practices that are seen as weird are usually restricted to private spaces of consenting and willlingly participating individuals. Like yeah I get that we all kinda judge the folks over at /r/sounding but ultimately I don’t think individuals should be ostricized or have civil libirties removed for shit like that. I don’t think it’s our duty as a collective to police people’s private actions as long as no harm is being brought onto others

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Bowdensaft t1_j8i11yg wrote

A substantial majority of people didn't want to be around Jews or black people for very similar reasons at certain points in history. They felt they had a duty to "shun" them for being different.

See where this thinking brings you? Once someone gets to decide who is right and who is degenerate, that's when society becomes unbearable for innocent people.

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Ivan_The_8th t1_j8m3xcb wrote

The difference is what race you have isn't a choice, OP was talking about people who consciously choose to be weird. I'm not agreeing with them, but that's a giant stretch to compare what OP says to racism.

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Bowdensaft t1_j8m8dta wrote

It's the line of thinking I mean. It's not always a big leap to apply the logic of shunning certain behaviours to shunning certain people, especially when you blame said behaviours on particular races. For example, stealing is bad -> "black people steal a lot" -> black people are bad is an easy chain to make, especially if someone who is already racist comes along and wants to manipulate others to join them.

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Kaninenlove t1_j8hf2kp wrote

I think you would find most people doing weird stuff aren't interested in being accepted by other individuals

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Noietz t1_j8iqc0v wrote

I'm unfortunately going to have to summon godwins law, but by your logic the nazis were justified by hating the jews lol

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