ReturnedAndReported t1_j8f3nir wrote
Reply to comment by saberline152 in 7 international companies have teamed with the EU to form the International Hyperloop Association, the industry's first trade body. by lughnasadh
Hyperloop is a ticket to nowhere. The bulk of Elon's wealth is in Tesla, which is in direct competition with public transport systems. Hyperloop in Vegas was a distraction and killed off a real and feasible public transport system. Now Vegas is stuck with a crummy monorail and a hole in the ground with a few Tesla's in it.
FewyLouie t1_j8fjno3 wrote
Eh sounds like other companies are doing this, so Elon can enjoy his exploding Teslas and Twitters all he wants.
VincentGrinn t1_j8frps4 wrote
if they stuck with the original plan for 'loops'(not hyperloop) like the ones they built in vegas
that being non vacuum, pods of ~12 people moving at a speed of 150 using linear induction motors, used over short distances from train stations to smaller stops. in tunnels built really quick and fairly cheap
that would have been useful, its basically a faster APM, which supplements public transport
hyperloops i doubt will ever be feasible though, that vacuum part is just a real issue
DomiLicknPaws t1_j8gi8hj wrote
I'm thinking The 'ol Tesla Trail was always an ingenuity example (and the state pandering to Tesla, honestly). We have something called Calici out here that makes drilling an underground like going through solid concrete, because Las Vegas was the bottom of a lake for some period of time.
As a local, kind of hoping that the urethra between the ends of our very large convention center area becomes the proof of concept for what we desperately need, rapid public transport to the urban areas. The Regional Transportation Commission does the best they can with busses, dedicated lanes, regional transfer stations, but it's still a city you can't exist in easily without a car.
CloserToTheStars t1_j8hu6qs wrote
Eu is not Amerika we already have trains. Plus you are not talking about hyperloop but about him building tunnels.
ReturnedAndReported t1_j8q4iv6 wrote
He promised hyperloop. He built tunnels.
You have great infrastructure. I've ridden Renfe and TrenItalia as well as many undergrounds in Europe. I dont see how this could possibly replace existing high speed infrastructure. New lines could potentially work to connect the Baltics and Scandinavia or other places that currently rely on ferries....but most of the cost comes from preparing the tunnels themselves. Lastly, existing designs would be far simpler to implement.
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P4ndamonium t1_j8fpzy6 wrote
Elon doesn't have anything to do with the modern hyperloop. He drafted a white paper and openly invited companies to make it, but beyond that he has no involvement in terms of engineering, branding or finances.
I love to hate the guy like everyone else but let's atleast be accurate with our criticisms. In terms of engineering feasibility, hyperloop is solid. We'll see if it makes sense financially at scale but on paper, with our current understanding of material sciences it's legit.
ReturnedAndReported t1_j8fq596 wrote
Not sure the engineering is solid. How fast can it stop?
VincentGrinn t1_j8fs88g wrote
theyre basically just maglev trains in a vaccum, so 1g acceleration/deceleration is entirely reasonable and safe so long as people are sitting, though hyperloop planned for 0.5g
though most maglev trains only do 0.25 accel and 0.3g deccel which is lame
AcanthocephalaFit766 t1_j8ftncb wrote
a magical vacuum
VincentGrinn t1_j8fuihr wrote
whats so magical about it?
ReturnedAndReported t1_j8fvpvo wrote
How bad it sucks.
VincentGrinn t1_j8fz9d4 wrote
well yeah i mean the plans for hyperloop were an ideal distance of 1500km
which means its a 19,000km^3 partial vacuum chamber
that shit cant be easy and even if they did manage it somehow, i dont think its practical
yeah nvm its actually 19km^3 which isnt that unreasonable ONLY requiring 2500 of the most powerful vacuum pumps in the world, still stupid though
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