Submitted by nastratin t3_10y455b in Futurology
[deleted] t1_j7z5aqa wrote
Reply to comment by Froot_of_the_loom in UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol by nastratin
Not really, the average person only drives like 20-40 miles per day depending on the country and we can see EVs sales are climbing fairly fast. Maintenance costs will generally be significantly less and eventually purchase price will also be less since it's really a much simpler vehicle with less to go wrong.
The few times you need to charge away from home really aren't going to add up to much for most people. For people who don't fit the average use patterns, like people who commute long distances daily, they may want to wait for better/cheaper batteries.
You have to get through you head that EVs are different than gas that can only be filled at a gas station and that it's ultimately far more convenient to have something that charges at home and covers like 90% of your driving without needing to stop for fuel, which is both convenient and time saving for most of your car use even if it's not the other 10% or so of the time you go for a long trip.
Long term electric will wind up being dirt cheap as energy storage eventually hits commercially viable numbers, which will probably be by the end of this decade. Solar and wind are much cheaper than other options.. when they are working, for now we have to pay a lot of added costs to run fossil fuel even though it's way more expensive because we can't store the cheap wind and solar.
Soo the transition periods are never ideal, but the benefits in lowering costs is so significant you can't ignore it. The fact that generation 1 EVs are already cheaper to operate vs DECADES of internal combustion research and improvement means EVs will almost certainly also improve substantially from this point.
The fact they aren't cheaper in every situation right out the gate really doesn't matter. The fact they can compete at all is instead a very strong sign for their future, as are their rapid increase in sales even if most of that is still plug-in. That doesn't represent a lack of consumer demand, just a lack of ideal batteries.
Countries can handle the charging station issues different, but at the end of the day most people don't be using charging stations that much and battery capacity will only increase so I don't see any real problem there. The bigger problem is just all the grid upgrades, but that has more benefits than just EVs and it's probably just smart to modernize our grids and make them more resilient anyway.
Froot_of_the_loom t1_j7z6pdh wrote
The majority here has no opportunity to charge at home. And having to carry a dozen cards around because of different operators and then pay 50, 70, 80 cents per kWh AND claim how "cheap" it is, doesn't work that way.
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