blackthornjohn t1_j7wh11k wrote on February 9, 2023 at 10:03 PM

Reply to comment by Froot_of_the_loom in UK: Fast charging EVs more expensive than filling petrol by nastratin

This is true and current ice fuel is coming down in price.

Froot_of_the_loom t1_j7wkysa wrote on February 9, 2023 at 10:29 PM

Hopefully. Just to make it clear: I'm not against EVs, but the often cited "it's so cheap to charge" as a major selling point doesn't really apply in countries where electricity has become the cash cow for the state.

blackthornjohn t1_j7wpu9d wrote on February 9, 2023 at 11:02 PM

I'm totally with you, I'd have one if I was buying new because most of our journeys are less than 20 miles a day and it could charge at home on the cheap tariff 90% of the time, we'd probably keep the dino juce car for long journeys and towing, butvto be blunt, solar pv panels are definitely going to be way before seriously looking to buy an electric car.

[deleted] t1_j7z735o wrote on February 10, 2023 at 1:33 PM

I think you save more money with an EV charging from home than you can with solar panels. Solar panels still take like 16-22 years to payback the investment.

>How Much do Motorists Really Spend on Fuel? Motorists spend an average of £1,288 a year to fuel a petrol and £1,795 for a diesel, for cars with average fuel economy

An EV charged from home will payback in more like 7-8 years, plus you get a new ride out of the deal vs just roof panels. The real downside is just the higher purchase price and the fact its very new tech that's going to have some bugs.

The easy way to manage money is to think about everything in terms of how long to get a payback from this investment. The investments that pay back the fastest are pretty much always the best.

[deleted] t1_j7z5yxo wrote on February 10, 2023 at 1:24 PM

I don't think there is any country where it's more expensive to charge because of the cost of electric. It's just the charging stations like the title says....

But.. by far.. more people charge from home and with gas you don't usually get the benefit of filling from home so of course there is no cost savings, but there is the extra hassle. Most people will not need to charge their car out and about, their daily commute it well below a single charge from home...especially in Europe where everything in more crammed together and people drive shorter distances.

Froot_of_the_loom t1_j7z721b wrote on February 10, 2023 at 1:33 PM

I don't need the long distance. The matter is the price. And some folks pay 50 cents at home even.