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planko13 t1_j5roga6 wrote

Agreed, hydrogen actually fills a really sketchy gap (industrial feedstock) in a fossil fuel free modern society. However, as long as we continue to not price carbon release in the atmosphere, the economics will require heavy subsidies. This plant is really only useful for proof of concept.

Its really kinda stupid for energy production though.

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dontpet t1_j5sqn9a wrote

I thought hydrogen with renewables is meant to get cheap enough to outdo conventional hydrogen. Headlines have been saying 2030 2035, without subsidies.

With the current range of American subsidies one informed podcaster said that hydrogen will cost $0 in a couple of years. I can imagine that being unpopular!

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CriticalUnit t1_j5taual wrote

> one informed podcaster said that hydrogen will cost $0 in a couple of years.

  1. This is not accurate.

  2. Delivery costs are also high, meaning even if it was 'free' to produce it would still be expensive to use.

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dontpet t1_j5ueh2p wrote

1 was Shayle Kann, doing the Katalyst podcast. I was taken aback when he said that, so I hope he covers what he meant in a coming episode.

2- both conventional and green hydrogen have to be transported.

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CriticalUnit t1_j5xrt4j wrote

  1. He's incorrect

  2. Conventional hydrogen also isn't cheap

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