expertestateattorney t1_j5qtokg wrote on January 24, 2023 at 10:37 PM

Reply to comment by gerkletoss in Solar powered hydrogen facility being built in California by ForHidingSquirrels

I have been through that area. There are immense tracts of unused desert land.

gerkletoss t1_j5r03w5 wrote on January 24, 2023 at 11:19 PM

A) deserts have important ecology

B) we're not just talking about this one site

SandAndAlum t1_j5sc769 wrote on January 25, 2023 at 5:24 AM

The worst areas are within easy transmission range of somewhere with a winter capacity factor over 8%.

Power density is around 1MW/ha nameplate when land optimized. This is under 70m^2 (8m x 8m) per person to provide world final energy of around 10TW. This land can coexist with many other uses (such as roofs, car parking, and agrivoltaics)

The fact that you're pearl clutching over this, but not over the average 8 car parks per person at 40m^2 each or the land required to support eating beef makes your motivations fairly clear.

gerkletoss t1_j5skjo1 wrote on January 25, 2023 at 6:55 AM

I don't need a lecture from someone who can't even keep track of what I'm talking about trading.

SandAndAlum t1_j5smffo wrote on January 25, 2023 at 7:18 AM

You only dog whistled it but it's obvious nonetheless.

You're talking about more land, more pollution and more long term costin the form of gas.

gerkletoss t1_j5smw7i wrote on January 25, 2023 at 7:24 AM

I could make up far worse lies about you but it would only make me look like more of a moron than you and I'd probably get banned for it.

Maybe if you pull you head out of your ass you'll figure out that deserts are real places with real environmental impact and while they're certainly not bad places for solar installation care must be taken to avoid erosion problems due to construction and lack of plants.