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goldork t1_j40b164 wrote

Reply to comment by Cryptolution in AI Being Used to Further Research into Most Beneficial Psychedelic Molecules by secret-millionaire

I must've misread then? Please kindly quote me in the article where it mentioned the therapeutic use of psychedelic in modern health care setting. Not studies, and not trials. But as a drugs commonly prescribed by doctors for a specific use.

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ackbobthedead t1_j40l3tg wrote

It’s hard to prescribe drugs for therapeutic use without trials and studies… especially when the First Federal Grant for Psychedelic Treatment Research in 50 years happened in 2021 as per the link below.

John Hopkins is one of the larger entities doing therapeutic studies on psychedelics. Scroll down a little bit on this link for examples on psychedelics assisting with depression, anxiety, smoking, ego, etc.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/psychiatry/research/psychedelics-research.html

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goldork t1_j40poxi wrote

Of course. I agree with you. Parts of Scientific method. Tried and true. Now i wonder if my comment implied it as otherwise. Well, i did put /s and a strikethrough so it shoudnt be taken seriously. Edit: ok i get it. It sound like a redditor trope that conclude just from a headline

Ever since i watched the video i linked, I realized psychedelics may have potential as a pharmacological agent. Perhaps for some psychological indication. However as studies and trials are ongoing, its still inconclusive. Unless im not aware if any psychedelic that was approved with proper indication for therapeutic use. (Edit: there is. Ketamine)

All the findings have shown how promising it is so far though. Never consumed it. Aware of the stigma. So im interested of the outcome. It might even be among the early drugs designed by an Ai.

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wwiinndyy t1_j40qj2f wrote

It depends, if you count ketamine therapy, used to treat treatment resistant depression among other disorders

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goldork t1_j40ua96 wrote

You're correct actually. Totally forgot ketamine is a psychedelic when it has been an anaesthetic agent for a long time. And i wasnt aware of its drug repurpose got fda approval at 2019. So i need to get my fact corrected.

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wwiinndyy t1_j411zhg wrote

Yeah, it's very recent and I don't fault you for not knowing beforehand. Hopefully it helps pave the way for proper scientific studies on other psychedelics, and eventually scheduled according to their therapeutic benefit

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NohPhD t1_j41ok5e wrote

Psychedelics are generally classified as Schedule 1 drugs (like heroin) and that has pretty much frozen any US research. Fortunately, it appears that a thaw has begun.

I hope the thaw continues.

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Cryptolution t1_j41yc9q wrote

>Please kindly quote me in the article where it mentioned the therapeutic use of psychedelic in modern health care setting. Not studies, and not trials. But as a drugs commonly prescribed by doctors for a specific use.

Oh we are moving the goalpost so quickly huh? Nice blatant dishonesty on full display. Also really pointless parameters.

"I don't want real science! Give me garbage instead pls."

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goldork t1_j429itj wrote

moving goalpost? blatant dishonesty? pointless parameter? i want garbage?

Im going to be honest with you Im not even sure what are you implying here at this point. I was mostly joking when I commented and if its going to satisfied you, yeah, that was my first impression before i dived into the article. However, I dont see the need to edit my comment afterwards.

In medical setting, the term therapeutic use usually indicate that the drug was approved by a certified medical board. And the board will give the guideline for e.g indication of use. Its what i was implying at my first comment. The toad was simply something i add and poorly worded since i've been wondering if psychedelics can actually be of therapeutic use.

In this article, It indeed showing the promising potential for psychedelic with the findings and trials. Its not useable yet as its not board approved. not certified or added to guideline/medical literature. Why it matters? If a doctor prescribed a drug just from the all the findings and trials in this article when its not approved yet he can get sued for negligence, malpractice or even jail.

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