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chaosenhanced t1_j6lg6rn wrote

Hard disagree that UBI requires a divergence from capitalism. Capitalism might be the perfect economic structure for UBI.

People in a post scarcity world would still want to do things that create value for each other and they should be able to make money off of their efforts... Ie... Capitalism.

What doesn't need to happen is anyone worrying about having a safe place to sleep, and food to eat.

My dream is to have government owned commercial properties (but oriented as a town square and transportation hub) that charge 0 rent to owner operated businesses. So people could have their basic needs met by ubi, and if they want to do something they love for extra income, they can.

If I could feed and clothe my family without worry, I'd immediately go back into music production. But I can't, because I can't make enough money and I can't go backwards in my career. I'd like a world where you can pursue your passions, and maybe even make lots of money, without fear of starving if you fail.

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gfkxchy t1_j6p9azd wrote

I'm surprised to find someone else who thinks capitalism and UBI are a great pairing. No one should worry about where their next meal is coming from or if they'll be able to stay warm this winter, and nothing should stop them from hustling and building something up to be worth millions or billions (but, like, pay your taxes).

I could see myself moving away from a full-time grind to a most-time consulting gig, maintaining tech skills and uptraining from time-to-time without having to give up my evenings and weekends. Stay current, low stress, lots of time to go fishing, still maintaining my professional relationships, no worries if the next gig isn't immediately available.

It really is a bit of a Star Trek-like economy. You don't have to work for basic necessities, but there is still a reward for putting in the effort.

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