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roofgram t1_j6gvio1 wrote

Until all the world’s problems are solved, there’s no need for UBI, plenty of work to do.

Unless you’re physically unable to in which case there are already social safety nets for that.

Handing out money doesn’t magically create more doctors and food. Those are both still limited resources. Just like the Corona stimulus - when you flood the economy with money, you only get inflation. Nothing is free.

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decoy1985 t1_j6gyoab wrote

Most social safety nets are barely functional, assuming you even live somewhere that has them. Often they have terrible barriers to entry, and don't really provide enough to support to actually survive on. Disabled people suffer immensely because of this. You have a very naive and uninformed view of social safety nets. I am guessing you have never been poor or even talked to a poor person before.

If you have the poor fortune to be American, its especially bad because in addition to poor social safety nets you have no public healthcare.

A lot of the major social problems in the world would be solved by UBI. It would enable a lot of people to do the remaining work to fix the rest without having to worry about how they will survive, or spending all their time grinding away at pointless jobs instead of working at what really matters.

Corona stimulus didn't drive inflation. Corporate greed did. Those small supplements to replace the income people no longer had isn't "flooding the economy" it was barely a fraction of what normally goes into the economy.

Here's the thing, when more people can see the doctor or buy food, that creates incentives to become a doctor, or to increase food production. Not only that, UBI would make it a hell of a lot easier for students to afford to live and go to school to become doctors and the like.

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roofgram t1_j6hivjd wrote

When you print money, you get inflation, very simple. 13 trillion dollars was created for Corona stimulus. Nothing is free. You either pay for it upfront with taxes, or pay for it later with your inflation.

No one is debating anymore, that is exactly what happened.

More examples - healthcare, super expensive because Medicare/Medicaid has given healthcare providers a blank check to drive up prices.

Education - with federally backed loans the government has given schools a blank check to charge as much as they want.

Basically anywhere you put ‘free money’ on the table prices go up.

So we can only conclude that if UBI was implemented, prices would go up, which means UBI would need to be increased and you’d be in never ending cycle.

Just like education, just like health care, and just like corona stimulus. Free money is short term gain, long term pain. You think you want it, you really don’t.

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KingAthelas t1_j6iuywq wrote

40% of ALL money in the US has been printed in the last 3 years. Yes, almost half of money ever created has been introduced in less than 3 years.

Yet here we are, having people who actually believe that didn't massively contribute to inflation...

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ladydafleurs t1_j6h5rtz wrote

Crazy how they cant see that a UBI would FIX like 50% of the worlds problems

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