Submitted by ribblle t3_101k224 in Futurology
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Mattthefat t1_j2obcma wrote
Yeah why did that happen? I just started noticing these types of posts
nyuckajay t1_j2oc7ho wrote
Idk there’s weird nonsensical posts on my home page daily now. Kinda strange, also a lot of the posters aren’t very old accounts. Or they’re not frequent posters. It had hardcore paranoid vibes.
This one’s an exception, the user has 200k karma, maybe farming idk…
Duende555 t1_j2p2oct wrote
Mod here. We’re struggling with it. It’s been happening all over Reddit.
frenetickticktick t1_j2pbiq0 wrote
AI shows up to do this reddit thing!
nyuckajay t1_j2pt6xe wrote
Do you guys know what’s causing it?
frenetickticktick t1_j2pbfu3 wrote
They're probably written by AI. C'mon guys think!
NeadNathair t1_j2o0qdk wrote
Sanity is a subjective term. People from five hundred years ago would most likely think our world now was completely insane. 500 years from now, what seems "insane" to us will be no more astonishing than a microwave oven is now.
frenetickticktick t1_j2pbm1s wrote
Insane is a poor metric. Astonishment and lack of mental cohesion are very different.
ribblle OP t1_j2o1qwp wrote
No, they wouldn't. They'd just contextualize us as low-level wizards and, on a deep level, move on.
You can't live naturally in the context I've described above due to sheer over-stimulus, which is inherently insane.
General_Josh t1_j2o4obl wrote
> You can't live naturally in the context I've described above due to sheer over-stimulus
Why? You're making this assumption without justifying it.
It's impossible to consume every bit of media, it's impossible to know every person, and it's impossible to read every book. You ignore heaps of stuff routinely, as part of your day-to-day existence. People are pretty good at figuring out what's relevant to their immediate lives, and ignoring or skimming most everything else.
Over-stimulation isn't an existential problem today; why would it be tomorrow?
ribblle OP t1_j2ozod9 wrote
This wouldn't merely be information in the world you live in. All of these things would have very real, unignorable impacts on your life. You can't just sleep on robots becoming commonplace or gene editing shaping your world. And it's very hard to adjust to in reality.
And then you go to bed, and wonder if this is a part of your life, what will be tomorrow?
You see the problem?
frenetickticktick t1_j2pbu5b wrote
We encounter new stuff all the time. Consider the mass adoption of smart phones. Have you panicked? Not asking rhetorically. It was kind of gradual, and it's caused me some stress admittedly.
ribblle OP t1_j2pcm15 wrote
Too young to have panicked.
khamelean t1_j2o45q6 wrote
You just described the exact solution to you own problem. Categorise anything to whacky as “wizardry” and just move on.
Humanity has spent hundreds of thousands of years not understanding the nature of reality, we seem to have managed just fine so far.
ribblle OP t1_j2oz9dp wrote
All of this stuff has the potential to actually come knocking. You can't just ignore commonplace robots and eugenics, and trying to steel yourself for it is a fulltime job.
khamelean t1_j2p3ykg wrote
It’s very strange to use robotics and eugenics in the same context, “robotics” is a technology, “eugenics” is an ideology that is pretty much universally considered to be unethical.
The idea that eugenics will become commonplace is pretty much nonsense.
khamelean t1_j2o3mcz wrote
I’m honestly not seeing anything you listed that would be reality/sanity breaking in anyway. The fact that you can imagine them at all should be proof enough of that. People from 1000 years ago would definitely struggle initially with many of the concepts we face in every day life today, but humans are amazingly adaptable.
ribblle OP t1_j2oz4bq wrote
It's not the concepts, it's the day to day of living in a world where you have no real grasp on the possibility space. A robot here and some eugenics there and a little bit of AR sprinkled on top and you're already in a very unideal place mentally.
DoesntWantToBe t1_j2o5fla wrote
I think you might have already started losing it.
Nothing you described is even mildly reality breaking. In fact, I'd argue that nothing is reality breaking beyond the very short-term reaction for humans.
We're extremely adaptable. Things that seem unthinkable quickly become "Oh, another infinite source of information that I carry with me at all times? Boring."
Even if the truly unthinkable happened, say we were visited by a race of aliens that revealed the secrets of God the universe and everything to us, the chaos would be temporary. A matter of decades at most, more likely just a couple of years.
Not because we're sane, rational beings capable of absorbing and understanding it, but because we're upjumped monkeys with short attention spans. In a very short period anything will go from "terrible truth" to "Not my problem" as we move on to other concerns, search for new stimuli to amuse us, or just give up trying to figure out what it means and focus on our own lives again.
Very few people care, or would spend any time on, what it all means. Religions adapt to keep their tithes flowing in, but the average person just nods, smiles, and goes back to their Real housewives marathon.
ribblle OP t1_j2p0uap wrote
The problem is, these things aren't just information. They would be constant annoyances and danger and, threats. People don't actually just move on. The gears turn, and sooner or later you start worrying about nuclear weapons again. This stuff would represent a much more immediate and often personal problem, with the stress to match.
But, let me not bury my point. If you have all these things constantly in your view, your just not going to have the same experience we're accustomed to today. You could end up living like a rabbit mentally running away from one strange question after another.
DoesntWantToBe t1_j2pc72i wrote
None of these things represent a threat to a reasonable person, and strange questions are what we're good at as a species. We invented god and the devil, we invented lizard people disguising themselves as human and running for political office.
We're not confused or terrified of these things as a species. Some members of our species are incredibly anxious and terrified of everything, you seem to be on the anxious side, but that just isn't most people.
Most people won't even think about these things beyond the conveniences they provide, like the way they treat facebook's data sharing today. Convenience trumps existential questions like privacy, humanity, and the nature of the human soul.
Some people will be excited for the potential changes and nerd out about it, much like the people who closely watch the space industry and dream of mars colonies.
A tiny, tiny percentage of people will stand on street corners and scream that the end is nigh. They'll be driven crazy by the changes to what they see as the natural course of human evolution.
But they won't impact how humanity moves forward with these advances. Because humanity will just keep moving forward until and unless something wipes us out. It would take a near-extinction level event for the average person to start having daily anxiety about advances in biogenetic and computer sciences. Most people just aren't that fussed with it.
And absolutely nothing coming in the next 20-30 years is going to change that barring a nuclear war or asteroid hitting the earth. Societies change quickly, but not that quickly.
ribblle OP t1_j2pcfdr wrote
Christ man. I'm a paranoid schizophrenic for having my worries about rapid technological progression. Fucking reddit.
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Federal-General-9683 t1_j2ofnts wrote
You are assuming that we will eventually get all this down and working which is a big assumption. If and/or when we can actually make any of this technology work it will be just as normal to us as the things we have now.
It really sounds like you are trying to envision the future with all this technology and you are wondering where religion will fit into the mix.. in my opinion religion is a dying animal the more access everyone has to information and technology the less people believe in the bearded space wizard.
P.s. It’s so tiring to continuously see all these posts about A.I.=scary, the best A.I. is at the moment a glorified search engine that can barely hold a conversation.
ribblle OP t1_j2p1hq0 wrote
I'm an atheist; but you actually get diminishing returns from this level of technology when it comes to religion. If the technology is crazy enough people become more willing to believe in the fantastic not less. If things get chaotic enough they just get more keen on cosmic order.
TzedekTirdof t1_j2osoeg wrote
Personally, I don't fear technological advances because as long as Jews observe Shabbat, we'll live in a world designed to accommodate a once-weekly reprieve from whatever the heck you're talking about
ribblle OP t1_j2p1sy3 wrote
Good luck dealing with all this 6 days a week.
WhoopieGoldmember t1_j2oebxt wrote
We have wildly different views of what the world will look like in 2 decades lmao
When I look forward twenty years I just see fire and ashes covering centuries of poor human decision making.
ribblle OP t1_j2p0yl1 wrote
I have a survivors priorities. Why focus on the world where you lose.
WhoopieGoldmember t1_j2pljhj wrote
>Why focus on the world where you lose.
In order to make sure you don't.
ribblle OP t1_j2pohue wrote
There's not a damn thing that can be done about a potential fire and ash outcome. It's a matter of luck - and I'm considering what kind of luck it would take.
kyoko9 t1_j2nxvql wrote
We would have to evolve into a species that doesn't feel anything.
ribblle OP t1_j2nzmmg wrote
Or maybe we just demand certain experiences, as part of our nature?
nyuckajay t1_j2o89om wrote
This sub went from cool to pseudo intellectual ramblings.