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twilight-actual t1_j0k2xyz wrote

Reply to comment by Coachtzu in Why the future of human workforce is manual labour by Primary-Food6413

Without work and competition providing the basis of value and the distribution of that value throughout our populace, what takes their place?

Egalitarianism?

Every attempt humanity has made at Egalitarianism has resulted in an oppressive police-state autocracy.

If we want to "re-evaluate our relationship with work", this is the first issue to address.

Edit: downvotes? You do realize that every attempt at true socialism and communism have failed, right? And from the ashes of these emerged the Soviet system who's offspring are now attempting to pummel Ukraine into the dark ages, followed by the CCP.

If we all no longer have to work, what do you think is going to happen? The owners of all the automated systems will just hand out money to everyone, and in such a way that everyone will get exactly what they feel they need?

Or, will we attempt to nationalize the means of production so that the government / party / central authority owns all the means of production and thus determines how resources are distributed?

And how do we determine who gets what? Are we all equal? Are some pigs more equal than other farm animals?

Downvotes without a response tell me you just don't like to be challenged with really thinking about the issue.

This is supposed to be a sub about the future, right?

I'm actually extremely disappointed in the quality and caliber here.

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SillyNluv t1_j0k3uh6 wrote

I always imagined we would pivot towards research, artwork(I know, I know) and relationships.

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Coachtzu t1_j0lbusu wrote

I said reimagining our relationship with work, not eliminate it entirely. Though I do think that will inevitably happen for many workers, and we need to prepare for it in some way whether your fears of a communist hellscape are taken to fruition or not.

I think this largely means reallocating dollars towards social value instead of production, the value of teachers and home health workers will be immense, as well workers to support maintenance and repair of our automated lines of production. Still likely need humans as head chefs in upscale restaurants, but you could easily see their prep work done by kitchen robots instead of humans.

But at the end of the day, when you look at the number of jobs in our economy, they're mostly low paying manual labor or driving jobs that will likely be replaced with robots and we will need to reimagine how those people survive without people going into a tailspin over the dangers of communism because the alternative is mass rebellion on a frightening scale.

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