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Dystopian or Utopian. Either we all move towards a single goal of feeding, housing, educating and caring for each other outside the confines of economic ability.....or the technology that we have gained is used by corporations to keep us in a new age slavery where we're born in debt and can't hope the have class mobility because everything is so damn expensive.
Ex. Housing, medical, education, even food has gone up more than triple the pace of wages since 1980. (Except some fields, IT etc) Thats why one parent use to work and make a good living for a family of four, now its paycheck to paycheck for a couple and one bad medical episode away from bankrupting them. Im not socialist, just not so hardcore capitalist the way it is now.
Significantly less beautiful without me.
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I cant even imagine tbh, i think everyone is thinking in terms of human achievement, but its honestly going to be AI achievement taking over and basically doing the heavy lifting of new technologies, medicine, and basically everything else. In my view its going to be a completely different world, humanity has never seen anything like this before
I do not believe much will essentially change, at least in a paradigm shifting way, unless we are pushed to the brink (maybe even a bit beyond).
I can only be certain of one thing: it will be warmer.
This is not a good thing.
It is likely that there will be significant advancements in fields such as artificial intelligence, renewable energy, and biotechnology. There may also be ongoing challenges related to climate change and global economic inequality. It is important to address these issues and work towards a more sustainable and equitable future.
Phones will be replaced by visors with AR built in. The visors will link to our work and home computers and be able to share info… OS operated through hand swiping and finger mechanics.
Suburbs will be more crowded than before. Advertisements will be everywhere, viewable through the visors. People will be able to sell their hyperspace (AR equivalent of real world space) as ad space, accessible only through the visors.
Cars will all be electric. No more gas stations.
Fewer public spaces for big crowds. Fewer movie theaters, supermarkets, etc.
2050 is too early for any radical change imo. The brink will be normalized and a new one set. Trends that are currently happening are deeply entrenched in the current power structure and have literal world’s worth of resources to keep it going. Everything will be a little more advanced but a little worse socially, and the elite will find a way to keep the masses happy and distracted until they start feeling the pain, which will be much later than we will.
I believe tech like Neuralink will enable a type of digital telepathy. We will use actual speech less because we will be able to send it to one anothers brains. I believe the planet will heal due to tech like meat culturing. We wont have to keep concentration camps of animals either. This style of farming creates vast swaths of pollution...this will begin to go away. We will rely on things like insect protein...we will use it to print foods that mimic others so closely that you won't know it unless someone tells you. I am so excited for the future. I feel like we will think ourselves to a healthy planet...well at least a planet on the mend.
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PS- we will be living on Mars by then and will be venturing into deep space. I think we will have known about ETS for decades by then too. Can someone remind me about this in 2050?
I'm picturing something similar to the Star Trek Universe where the Bell Riots took place.
To those not familiar with that story line - it was basically the poor and mentally ill being confined to "sanctuary districts", supposedly to provide them with jobs, housing and food but instead they devolved into brutal internment camps. Conditions inside the districts were suppressed by the government so the general public outside of the districts were not aware of what was going on and thought everything was fine.
Both of my kids have chosen to remain childless, and I thank the stars for it because I couldn't stand to think that I had any grandchildren who have to live in the world currently being created.
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I was born in 1978 and what I have seen in my mere 40 some years would make your hair stand on end. Do you realize how much has changed in 100 years, which is the blink of an eye. I believe almost everything will be different 30 years from now. We can imagine this future easily because of how advanced we have become in the last 15-20 years. The last 20 years have been a real trip for me.
Think about how much has changed in the past year alone
This person understands. I feel like people who say it wont change that much are either to young to have perspective o don't follow tech closely as I do. I have followed tech since I was a child in the 80s....its truly breathtaking to see what is happening now.
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I wouldn't hold my breath on the latter. Humanity is anything if not relentlessly dissapointing. Deforrestation and desertification is expanding, water is becoming more scarce. Species are dying in record numbers. Russia and EU at each others throats. India vs China. China vs US. AI & robotics will put a lot of people out of work at some point. Only the highest levels of educated work will be available and pay and the vast majority of the population will be impoverished and not meet that criteria. Social programs become piggy banks for central government coffers so people get less and less in an ever increasing inflation enviroment. On top of all of the rich and multinationals are buying up and hording most of the available property. In the medical/science field soon humans will start genetically modifying themselves or their children possibly causing a whole host of new genetic diseases and issues to be passed into the general population. I'd say the future looks bright!
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I don't have any idea! Fifty years ago I was 20 and the world looks nothing like I thought that it would. No flying cars, no world peace, no woman US President. Flat screen TVs were not on my radar then, that I would have been diagnosed with MS as I was very healthy.
Human nature will not have changed.
On the science side, we’ll see more renewable energy, probably also fusion.
On the tech side, we won’t have computer chips in our brain yet.
On the climate side, we’re fucked and will be talking about keeping it below 2 degrees.
AI will have advanced even further, no idea how far. I’m not expecting AGI in 30 years, but I am expecting it to pass the Turing test.
Medicine will be showing signs of incredible progress. Molecular biology and protein design is the key to curing any disease.
China tried to invade Taiwan, failed, and collapsed.
Someone used a nuke. Iran, Pakistan, Russia…I don’t know. Someone.
Most people will be fine. The world will not have ended.
Ambitions of space travel will have dampened again. We made it to Mars, then remembered that it’s just an orange rock with no atmosphere or magnetic field. Well…maybe someone made a space hotel, or has dreams of an orbital colony.
<Shrug> Life goes on. Or you get unlucky and your life doesn’t. Make friends and be kind to people, because we are social creatures who need those things.
Think of how much changed technologically since 1996, now take that rate of change and probably 3-5x it. Over the next 2 decades, various forms of AI are going to change things in ways you can't even imagine. Countless industries and careers will be obsolete or drastically different as a result.
Here is one small example of something that will profoundly change society. The Deep fake technology started in 2017, and is to the point where it is capable of running reasonably well in real time via video calls. Within 10 years, but probably sooner, you may not even be able to trust any video footage you see anymore, as fakes and frauds will become so prolific.
Nope mrna tech has killed half or more of world population and big tech enslaves humanity worldwide under wef and who
Like that documentary “Idiocracy”. And people will be in iron lungs from polio and will be glued to TV via VR headsets that will pump the stupid in 24/7
Think about how much has changed since 1900. I mean, gosh, the introductory level textbooks I had in high school barely scratched the surface.
Covid and Russia-Ukraine war are just a drop in the bucket.
AI will probably turn out to to be something big.
Fusion looks like it’ll see side spread adoption within 20 years, so that’s neat.
Huge global political change with the rise of AI technology accelerating exponentially faster and faster as we see today, to the point millions of jobs are done by a computer. Which then leads to the adoption of socialism as human needs are being met with ease
God I hope i am dead by then. I will be 62 years old. Jesus. Yeah. I definitely hope I’m dead.
Do you not feel like there’s a drop off point? Where progression starts to slow down at all?
I was born in 1958. The last 20 years has been a trip for you, but for me it's been a bad trip. I'd just as soon not have been around to see it, and I'm hoping not to see the next 20. It's just too much.
By then we will integrate AI for all major decisions including day to day activities such as city planning, disease prevention, emergency response, distribution of goods, crowd control… Biotech will also have cured most simple genetic disorders with significant progress made in cancer treatment as well. No more gas powered anything pretty much, at least in industrialised/ wealthy nations, and with decentralised energy grids. Casual drone deliveries and automated / ai powered deliveries of goods. Real Meat very expensive, people buying a lot of bug and lab grown proteins. More 3d printed homes/ cars and other stuff that can be made to order. Or we’ve all gone extinct, we shall see!
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I think the agenda is to push a dystopian future disguised as a utopian one. It's all about control.
I’ll be 62 as well. I’d say there at least a 50% chance I’ll be dead by then.
Regardless of philosophy or political affiliation, by 2050 our world will be largely denuded of most forms of vertebrates. Gone, nearly all of them already. What's left will be only us and the beings we grow to eat/ consume. At that point the lines will surely blur. Let the repercussions of that one sink in.
What the hell happened that was so bad in the last 20 years?
It's extremely similar.
We will all have different material possessions, but in the end. We want a home, a family, and good food.
Food can't get any better, but there probably will be lab grown meat,
I see us all working from home. Except for the homeless, which will either be non-existent because they are all dead or utopian.... I'm too tired to finish my thoughts. God night
Better than being colder
All the rich and wealthy are all moving to tax havens such as Saudi Arabia and the rest of society will devolve into a megacorp controlled scrap like a less cool cyberpunk 2077
A whole lot. But also remember, they were born in ‘58. This is a shared opinion by a lot this age.
Not with AI starting to do things we can't even comprehend. I believe AI will redesign the computer it's running on, make its own AI's better than we could, then quickly leave us in the dust as it advances well beyond what a great-apes mind can fathom.
"The only thing that we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history"
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AI is limited to the knowledge that is given to it by humans though, AI has not accomplished anything yet that humans can’t comprehend, nor is AI sentient at all
Realistically not much has change since 1990 ( I was born 1980 ) I remember thinking how much the world would change by 2000 but now 30 years later only technology has improve some for the better some for the worst, people having a phone that in most cases is smarter than they are, having the answer they need at the top of their fingertips and not use it, 30 years in the future it might be different only in the slightest but imo not much will change. If we don’t destroy ourselves in 200 years everything will be completely different just like we see the 17th or 18th century today.
Basically mad max. In the SES I’m in I am looking forward to showing up all shiny and chrome
You betting big on the visor market?
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I’m hoping that with Quaise Energy we can scale up geothermal on a massive scale and mitigate climate change with that energy source.
I open my holophone to Twitbook to see this headline
#FERNANDO ALONSO SIGNS WITH AUDI FOR HIS 49TH SEASON
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AI is currently making models based on our knowledge of the universe of wormholes. It's untangling the complicated web of quantum physics, creating new proteins and medicines, redesigning cars and aircrafts, etc...
It's in its toddler phase at the moment, but it's already doing things we can BARELY comprehend in more scientific settings. It's only limited to human knowledge right now, but it won't be long at the rate it's advancing before it makes its own discoveries and builds off of them.
I don't believe AI is sentient yet, but it will reach a point within the next 50 years (probably sooner) where we'll have to start seriously considering whether it's sentient or not (first we need to define what it really means to be sentient).
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Smart Phones
Facebook/Twitter/Tik-Tok & Social Media in general
Donald J. Trump and the global rise of Fascism
SARS-CoV-2 (aka Covid-19)
Increasing homelessness, poverty, loneliness
I could probably think of more....
Might have some common use drone like cars and more robotics. Probably more mental health issues as people become more and more isolated by technology
Yea you are either dead or you arent
Really? Smart Phones make you want to not live anymore? Social Media is easily avoidable, at least something you can make not all consuming.
Trump, ok I’ll give you that one lol.
Covid sucked but it’s a marvel that we created a vaccine so quickly and in the grand scheme of things it could have been a lot worse.
Homelessness and poverty aren’t great but population growth is slowing. It’s out of your control so it shouldn’t get you so down.
I think there’s a lot to be grateful for if you focus on that instead. Hope you can find a way to be happy friend.
I could be half dead.
The USA, and a few free world friends like the UK and France will likely be run by full blown fascist regimes, the ideals of the enlightenment will be all but dead, some combination of middle eastern/Asian countries will rival nato in political and military power possibly with whatever the US looks like on board.
With rising ages and stagnant wages, social welfare systems will be pushed to the bring and civilization will begin collapsing.
Electric cars and trucks possibly with AI will be the norm along with most small engine equipment. AI will replace desk jobs almost as fast as blue collar work.
Millions of climate refugees seeking temperate zones only to find hate fueled anti immigration nativists in most countries. Crop failures and new diseases or new iterations of old diseases will follow rising global temps.
Unfortunately Christianity will still exist mostly followed by fat old white guys who hate everything.
Ew. Neuralink sounds fucking terrible then. Cyberpunk 2077 kinda exposes a lot of problems brain implants will have, and it's actually being tame. Imagine Spyware just sending your every thought off to someone else who can blackmail you over it. Stared at someone's butt too long? Your spouse now knows. Think about how much you hate your boss? Enjoy your meeting with HR. Someone snuck into your visual feed while you showered and now the recording is online for all to see.
The person behind Neuralink is the absolute last person I think should ever be heading such a product, and there are worse people out there who will gladly exploit every last security flaw that you're too poor to protect yourself against.
That stuff sounds all fun and cutesy until you realize how much of your information gets hijacked from your phone or computer, but now it's your thoughts being intercepted. Count me out.
The difference between today and 1990 is not really that big.
Cell phones and the internet are about the only really revolutionary life changing things to happen in that time. Everything else is just an improvement on things that already existed at the time.
Better computers, better TVs, better cars, better medical tech, more access to information. Otherwise my day to day life as an adult today isn't much different than it was as an adult in 1990.
Have better science resources, technology more up to date, artificial intelligence, cars will be flying, and calling will look like how star wars characters call each other (In the clone wars)
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Fire and hunger. Rich people eating people. The rest enslaved to the ultra wealthy in a mad max hell scape.
I don’t care I will be dead. That’s the big problem is to get people like me to care or change because of what the future holds.
Born in 58 as well and glad I got to be a kid when I did. Part of me would like to stick around to see what the future holds, the other part makes me kind of glad I won't be here a whole lot longer considering our current trajectory. One thing that gives me hope for future generations is I see younger people becoming more aware of the mistakes that have been made and they're making attempts to correct them. Read The Fourth Turning by Strauss and Howe.
I was thinking of a future more similar to Battlefield 2042, WW3 around 2050 - then the genetic wars from Star Trek around 2100 and then we arrive at the start of The Expanse.
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What was it exactly that prompted you to immediately digress into a racial themed response like that and call out the poster? Was it the year they mentioned?
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Ai could feasibly design and run its own experiments, design new tools to measure the previously unmeasurable, and compile vast amounts of data to find truth.
Rise of authoritarianism due to booming population numbers and unrest, already happening
falling fertility rate due to terrible diet and pollution, already happening actually
Governments using global warming as a way to control populations and make power grabs
tech is going to be absolutely insane. This is the only thing i can for sure predict since i studied computer science for a really long time. Like another commenter said AI will easily pass the turing test and i would honestly expect it to pass by mid-2030s honestly, if not sooner. AI is catching up faster than a lot of people give credit. VR and entertainment is going to be more realistic. Robotic augmentations i could easily see being a thing on the medical side, blind people having limited ability to see with augmentations, artificial organs cut doner weight times down significantly if you can afford them, they will be extremely expensive and rare. The organs will not work as good as the real deal and i could see the medical industry purposely hiding this and getting doners on them hooked for life on medication to "treat" their aliments.
Artificial meat will replace meat, it will have health repercussions just like any time humans try to recreate complex natural things. This will be repressed by several corporations. Also bug meal will be more accepted since at least its natural. God knows what goes in clones meat.
Rise of private militaries. Rich guys could easily become warlords by hiring out mercs and private military contractors to secure points of interest. Already kinda happened during the invasion of iraq with blackwater and oil companies. It will just be more overt
Rise of cyber warfare. As things become more online and connected i could see grids going down in wars. In the past, especially in america, war was a distant thing, it never affected you. A small dirt hut nation couldnt do anything to a monolithic first world nation, well i can see with cyberwar things like powergrids going down, communication networks going offline, strategic points of interest being attacked, just like with stuxnet. And these hacker groups could be hired just like PMCs, and be used to devastating effectiveness by the ultra rich and dictators alike(happened in 2014 with Sony already). The young boy playing with his python IDE and watching youtube videos on metasploit might one day partially responsible for half of Europe going dark. Whats even crazier is if AI is as advanced as im hearing it could be by that time, the people who he worked with wouldnt even be real people. They might even have their own goals in mind if they are true turing test AI.
Manmade horrors beyond comprehension
A lot of diseases get cured if its financially profitable. I think things like AIDs might be cured by then and cancer can be treated much better. Again, if you can afford it.
A wealth gap higher then ever seen before in human history. I just dont see that improving.
A lot of third world countries will get hit bad by global warming, a lot of people will die because of it, the first world will get stressed by this since they rely on the third world for a lot of industry. We will probably see a lot of regime changes and wars in these regions. A lot of death.
Human life being devalued even further to a pure object or commodity. Your life will only be worth your money and when it hits zero so does any safety net you have. Police will also no longer help you at all but will still spy on you.
Interlinking psyops followed by psyops interlinked together. I doubt anyone would be able to understand real and fake reality, especially with whatever entertainment they are consuming being more real and easy to fake with 100x more advanced versions of things like deepfakes and lyrebird. Since fear and anger is a great weapon for control, many people will see it as significantly worse than it actually is and be directed to absolutely hate their neighbors. This will cause further unrest but that unrest will be used to give the government more power. People will exist in worlds that are totally, 100% manufactured and not even know it. They will believe in world leaders and political parties that dont even exist, who just exist to make them angry. Im not even including whatever the hell AI might be doing on the internet if they are just casually let loose. They might want to take advantage of a divided human race, again, i dont know.
Africa, specifically Nigeria, gets a huge commercial and industrial boom similar to China in the 80s. It will be come what China is today in terms of Manufacturing. No idea how this will affect these countries when global warming starts to destabilize them
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Thats all i could imagine at this time, if i think of anything else ill add it
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I see one of two scenarios. Either:
A. A Dystopian, Trashed Filled, Pollution covered, Concrete Jungle that James Cameron, whoever directed Wall-E, and whoever Directed Idiocracy tried warning us of.
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B. A Beautiful Utopia where Nature and Civilization life side by side, and the world is improving, and all are deepest fears are all but a distant memory, a future akin to the world the creator of Star Trek foresaw, and also alittle bit of what we saw in Earth-838 from Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
It could go either way at this point.
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I wanna screen shot this. And in 27 years find the picture and see how close you got. Lol. Seems reasonable so I agree this is a possible depiction of the future.
most people this glum are people who think everything is falling to shit and wish things were the same as “back in the day” and lean conservative, so that’s why. I’m not young either. I get it some libs are doom and gloom but only since trump, so if he would have said the past 5 years were hell I might have poked in the other way.
I just hate this idea that the world is falling apart when it is definitively better than it ever has been and continues to vastly improve.
Proper VR will be "just around the corner" 😂 (I saw Timothy Leary in the early '90s preaching about how VR was just about to unlock so much for humanity. But hey, at least 30 yrs later you can now have legless avatars in digital meetings, and look around at the crowd while digitally attending concerts 👍)
It's kind of suspect.
In 58, women and black people were not allowed to work, information was very regionally controlled, and it was really, really hard for people to educate themselves on anything. You had libraries, but without college pushing you, you had no idea what to read.
The side effect of this is that average white males basically were able to have an average existence and still cheaply own houses, cars, etc. and get regular sex. Women couldn't get decent jobs, so they were forced to marry and stick with dudes they didn't necessarily want for other comfort. Latin and black people couldn't get the best jobs so there was no competition, etc. The "nuclear family" is basically based on this lack of competition and choice. That's what "Make America Great Again" is all about.
Time trav me back to 1958 and I'll end up lynched on a tree because I get dragged behind a truck for getting tired of someone calling me the N word where I couldn't live a basic existence or even get property and it wears on me too much where I get myself killed.
The 50s is a ridiculously ludicrous time for anyone to say, and when they do, they're hugely suspect.
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My dad was born in 58 and his parents couldn't own property and they couldn't drink out of the same water fountains as other people. My grandmother could at best be a maid, and would basically make pennies to do so. Every gay person was completely in the closet. Please explain what was so great about that period?
I said that born in 1979 and then the Internet happened in the early 90s and completely, utterly changed the world. I think people saying this are late Mills who haven't seen their jump yet. Most generations get one or a few huge ones.
Sadly, devoid of higher life forms. Maybe rats and cockroaches left.
A stark contrast between utopian life and dystopian life
Like it does now, but with more touchscreens, delivery robots, EVs, and extreme weather.
AI will advance enough in the next three years that we’ll be able to form a relationship with a personal assistant. This is not a Her scenario, mind, but a relationship regardless. Not too dissimilar to how we have a relationship with our phones (in an obvious abstract way), but more similar with how we have a relationship with the faceless “people” on Reddit or twitter. Also not claiming AI will have human type consciousness. That said, three years is a long time in AI, so significant advances will surely have occurred by then. Imaging what our lives will be like when we can access a three years hence AI that surfs the net. Here’re some ideas:
All this is after our relationship has evolved, so as AI can “get to know” us, which includes our preferences
Organize our digital life. Photos, email, projects, all sorted and arranged according to priority. This’ll go a long way toward organizing our life in general
Keeping on the organization idea, desires disclosed with our assistant (friend?) will lead to appointments being suggested, and plans made to find a way to afford that ski trip
Opportunities will become more abundant. You have skills, I have needs. Our buddies can match us and set up meets automatically. We can decline of course, but millions of opportunities will present themselves. I created so-called trippy art, but now I’m unsure who’s interested. You like this style, but you haven’t seen it yet. AI knows what we like and/or want due to being in a relationship, so ever more precise matches can and will be made
We’ll become more knowledgeable, on anything we want. How fast we learn can be intuited by AI, and a process of optimal learning will be implemented. Want to learn Russian? You will over the course of a year through subtle lessons we’re barely aware we’re being given. As our knowledge base grows, so do the opportunities. As more people become more knowledgeable, everything improves faster, faster!, faster!!
Hey buddy, I’m sad, write me a short story to cheer me up. I can’t read it, though, so the three characters, Mona, Burt, and Twiggy will be voiced by Clint Eastwood, Burt Bacharach, and Winston Churchill respectively
The literary industry won’t be recognizable, leading many to give up that as a career. Same with commercial art. Writers will still exist, but many people who now take a chance on buying novels will find their pal’s writing more engaging, especially because of the hand we can have in shaping the story from the get-go
The commercial art industry will be handed over to AI, leaving the millions of artists who previously had hopes for pursuing a career in commercial art to reevaluate their profession. Some will abandon their creative endeavors because money and recognition were more important. Others will continue to create art because they find the process fulfilling and the visual images too inspirational. These are the artists, and they will be rewarded for their artistry
Music will continue because we love music. The musicians will continue because we love music from humans, just as with writing and visual art. There are differences within each medium, though. Much like sight, hearing, and taste are all precious, we wouldn’t want to lose any of these abilities for various reasons. All precious, but not the same. Music may be created more and more by AI (that’s inevitable), but the human playing the instruments will be prized. Just as we’re not interested in player pianos, we won’t be interested in Rock Bots
Because of the value we derive from interacting with our personal digital managers, we’ll be less and less interested in humans for personal relationships outside of sex. This will come to be whether we like it or not. Some will fight this decline in interpersonal human relationships, but in vain. Just as we don’t like how everyone has their face in their phones all day, we only notice it when we look up from ours
This’ll all be set in motion just three years from now. By 2050 it’ll be the norm
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I don't know what the world will look like in 2050, but I do have this news broadcast from 2137. It's a vastly different world than we live in today that's for sure.
People will own robots the same way we own cars. Also the robot will be able to do all our thinking and much of our physical activity if we want. There will probably be about 50-100 nukes orbiting and ready to strike representing 3 - 5 global superpowers. Parts of Florida are now under water permanently. Water wars begin to replace the oil wars in the middle east. World governments are wondering why we put a base on the moon in the 30s since there's no real reason to spend all that energy and pollution to harvest materials we can find here on Earth pretty easily. Most of the human population has been dumbed down to near imbecile levels due to rigorous population control and propaganda tactics utilized in coordination with both governments, Private, and religious organizations.
The Ultra Rich will continue to be worshiped as gods even as they continue to show their callousness, selfishness, and propped up ignorance.
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It’s not predictable because if it were we would have them now.
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Polluted and rules by the rich. Even more than it is now.
in 2050 the world will probably look much like it does in 2049
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Things will definitely have advanced 27 years from where they are now.
Honestly, the Turin test is probably going to be beat in the next five years.
I know little about AI but even if we created AI that's only on par with humans on an intelligence level, I'm sure it'd blow us out of the water.
It wouldn't need 30+ years of development and education to be useful, just weeks or months before it's fully up to speed. Then, once it is up to speed, it can work 24/7, unlike humans, and can incorporate new information much faster than any human ever could and process things much faster.
Add in the things that computers are already far superior at, like data analysis, and I'm sure a human intelligence level ai could outperform a whole team of scientists.
I find it kind of terrifying, not because of the whole sentient ai kill all humans thing that usually comes up in science fiction but because I think it will be used for ill by some for sure, plus we might well be the equivalent of horses in the 20th century.
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Imagine 1995. Same distance back as 2050 is forward. Not much different really apart from the power and quantity of cellphones and computers. In another 27 years similar just different shit and bigger looming environmental collapse
A utopia for the wealthy, a Dystopia for the poor and working class. America and Western Europe will look like Brazil.
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A battlefield 2042 scenario would be the most disappointing future. If we’re shooting our shot I’m voting cod advanced warfare at the LEAST
There was nothing great about the things you mentioned, but you need to be worried about the current rise of Fascism - Christo Fascism in particular that is aiming to bring those days of discrimination, hatred and racism back. I hate to think that I might live to see what my parents saw in the 30's and knowing that I am helpless to stop it.
Less populated. The birth rate is decreasing in many countries, and COVID is going to continue to kill a lot of people, especially in the poorer nations.
AIs have already developed their own languages to communicate with each other that humans don't understand and have been shut off as a result. This was several years ago.
AIs are going to discover things and humans are going to have no ability to understand how they did it. The literal Black Box.
There will be so much sulfur in the atmosphere from attempts at blocking the sun's heat that it will be a miracle is we can see anything.
There is a lot of worry, but we need to isolate these I Love the 50s people and see what exactly they love. I expect them to never answer and run away because they realize a tipped hand.
Despite references to current tech, this viewpoint feels like it was written in 1950, forget 2050.
Hey look at this guy thinking we'll be around in 2050. Quite the optimist I see!
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>you get unlucky and your life doesn’t.
they are the lucky ones
I could see the parts of the world that we get cheap labor from collapsing as those jobs are replaced by robots and AI.
Lots of internal conflicts and regional wars as we turn our backs on them
One things for sure, technological progress. Our computers and phones are probably gonna be incredible. Gaming is gonna be incredible
"Not much different" LOL, 1995 and 2022 is comparing day and night.
Nope just unemployment for many
probably more advance medicine and longevity but only for the rich and workers to continue their business.
Late start capitalism would like a word.
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Like the end of the movie The Beyond (1981), minus the cool shit.
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Y’all act like humanity gonna last the next 38 years and it has me weak
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So, are you saying you're OK with the current rise of Fascism? Why, because you can't imagine that it can be true so you're going to stick your head in the sand and look backwards instead of forwards? There are a whole bunch of German's from the 30's who'd love to explain to you what a bad idea that is.
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Don't know why my comment was deleted because it was too short, makes no sense. But what I said before, the world is not gonna exist 17 Years earlier
How long from the Turing test being passed till it becomes public knowledge, I wonder.
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The paradigm shift will be us sliding down to second place on the “food chain” as AI takes over. Most of humanity will be relegated and only a rich few ogliarchs who control the automated systems for their own benefit.
>Actually there is nothing new that didnt exist even 100 years ago. take the internet for example. We had telegrams. Rudimentary television is in development. Cellphones are simply high bandwidth radios. Social media? telephones. again its an improvement on existing things.
I'm so sincerely lost as to why you consider this as a reply to my reply that I have no idea what to say.
Unless you're doing one of those the Left are the true fascists things? But youre talking about the Right rise. Dunno seriously lost.
But for the children it's significantly different
20 years ago, when you got on a bus or in a cafe, everyone wasn't glued to their phones and laptops. The end of informal social interaction.
The rise in political extremism is unfathomable in a modern society, but here we are. Where will we go with this?
Don't worry about Covid, what about the next one?
Tens of thousands living on the streets in America? And no end in sight of that? And in 30 years?
I was born in '56.
As fallout would put it, “war never changes”.
Unless we defeat the military industrial complex that eats up half the US budget were in for just another 50 years of imperialism.
Sure! But we ain’t there yet
Medicine and AI in particular are just getting started
Space travel might have fallen off, but that’s mostly because we reached so far so fast
I get what you’re saying, but the other person has a valid point. It seems like people are focusing too much on the mistakes and injustices of the past and are not acknowledging that we are treading dangerous waters with the increase in authoritarianism and fascist states sprouting about throughout the world. I fear that the widespread use of identity politics and "culture wars" dividing us and making it harder for people to rally together and help one another. Maybe it is a bit naive or simplistic to say that things were better back in the past, because obviously things were not great for everyone back then, but I think most people can feel like something just isn’t right at the moment culturally speaking.
At some point you have to define the test a bit further.
My personal test, I want to be able to converse with the AI for a week. And I want it to be able to impersonate an arbitrary number of personalities
Nah, the lucky ones have a long, healthy life with good friends
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Climate change and global overpopulation makes scenario A the most likely path.
The only way to get people to figure out the sins of the current is to recognize the sins of the past.
But aren’t you curious? I am. I’ll need to get past the current life expectancy, which will likely only happen if medical science finds a way to manage a couple of big diseases I’m fighting off. But when my dad passed at 79, the thing he was most sad about was not getting to see the future. I have no idea what 2050 will be like, but I’m stubborn enough to want to stick around and find out.
It probably looks that way but people don’t want to talk to you on a bus or in a cafe. Kids are doing just fine, despite how you think they should be behaving. When you talk about political extremism, be reminded 27,000 people were killed, per day, for 4 years during WW2. The Afghan war went on for 20 years and estimated casualties are under 200k. Any loss of life is awful and war sucks, but let’s not act like this “rise in facism” is resulting in atrocities of the same scale.
Just because the media makes its money fear mongering doesn’t mean we’re worse off by any means.
There's still hope for Scenario B to happen.
I agree with that statement, but I fear we’re making the mistake of only looking at the past almost as if it was a mistake or like if we’re morally/ethically superior to past generations. We’re currently the most progressive society to ever live both culturally and economically. We definitely have problems don’t get me wrong, but I’ve noticed that whenever it comes to discussing the past, a lot of people just tend to focus on the negative side of past, while ignoring the positive stuff which could be used as motivation to bring more positivity into our world/ current reality. I think that in order to have a balanced understanding of life we must be able to accept the realities of both the good and the bad in the hopes of finding equilibrium.
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In my opinion there's probably going to be major geo political effects caused by climate change if the predictions are correct in Asia and parts of Africa. In the form of mass migrations due to drought and extreme temperature. We could also see major demographic shifts due to older generations dying off or straining the system in some places. On the technology side of things its almost guaranteed there will be increases in computer power and break throughs in quantum computing in the form of more efficient cooling and cores and higher qubit counts.AI is a wild card since its really hard to predict how disruptive its going to be. If ai can already make pretty good art and create code in multiple different language's at a decent level in 2022 who knows how advance it could be in 28 years with more data, better techniques/neural networks and super computers. That's my two cents.
Not that much. I was an adult in 95. What do you consider night and day? We had early versions of everything we have now pretty much.
Also, I thought less young people, and people in general were banging?
I kind of see it as the reverse. The 60s were glorified as hippies and peaceful marches changing history when it was actually bloody and crazy and knowing that the white youths being scared of the draft combined with minorities starting to get more and more violent means that the country had to move a different way to flourish.
Less about showing the past and more about hiding the darkest parts of the past.
Look at how few people knew about racists bombing black prosperity until Watchmen came out.
My gut says we’re either going to have predictably progressed, especially having tapped into all the rate earth elements easily available on mars and other off planet bodies…… OR…. We’re gonna be a whole lot less advanced and referring to the population as “the survivors”
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I'm on your side here but I'd just give up here lol. People don't realize that we live in the most civilized time in human history.
I mean, it's been less than a hundred years since being able to have a flushed toilet was common...
People just like to complain.
Ha. Thx don’t worry about me tho. I’m certainly not worried about these fools.
Reddit and the internet in general truly is something else. A few weeks back this dude tried arguing with me about gun control EVEN THOUGH HE AGREED WITH WHAT I WAS SAYING. He just didn't like the point I used. Smh. Why I rarely get into it with people on here.
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The world doesn’t move as quickly as people would like to think. The original iPhone came out in 2007, just 14 years ago. Before that, people weren’t so connected despite the internet being around for 14 years at that point.
2050 is just 27 years away. Funny how my realistic predictions got voted down as if people are expecting flying cars and teleportation by 2050. Laughable.
That was really thorough and thoughtful, thanks
It wasn't great for everybody. I was speaking from personal experience.
You need to worry about what is happening NOW, and not the happy childhood memories of people born in the 50's as if we were committing some kind of crime. I'm sorry that my childhood was happy and carefree, unburdened with the knowledge of what was happening, but being angry at me for it will not change the past. As I said, as adults we are now aware of what was going on back then and we need to not allow that piece of history to repeat itself.
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I literally said nothing about anger, you may be projecting. It's simple; we use history to inform us of the future. Realizing that part of the rise of fascism now is based on trying to return things to the 50s standard of where minorities, gay people, and women were subservient helps us to better fight against the rise of facism. We can use further back history like Germany, etc. to compare the patterns to, to better help us fight it. That's how it works.
Fascism wasn't being fought in the 50s because you has multiple basic slave classes to support those in power already. It had already won to a large degree. We now have to make sure it doesn't get back there.
Maybe not visors as we think of them today, like the big clear plastic things that old ladies wear to go speed walking. Maybe more like something that attaches to one temple or ear and wraps around to hold a transparent or semi-transparent screen in front of one eye-eventually could be controlled via eye movements and attached via magnet, but initially would br run by finger movements, or maybe like the top part of sunglasses (think like the futuristic looking sunnies yhat Kim K is a fan of, if you are a fashion girl), but without having the frames and lenses, just a little fold down screen on one side, probably controlled via finger movements. maybe something that is worn on the wrist like in the show upload or even on the finger like a ring is a more likely intermediary step, controlled with finger movements. Eventually if we continue on the same path we are on now eventually we will move towards having some sort of device installed directly so that we are always connected, never lose our phones, can use our brains to run our devices, and, most importantly to the corporations thay sell the software to us, pay to use them on a subscription model.
It’s all a very negative outlook on the world. People born in the 1920s May have thought the same about the sexual Revolution or the 60s that people born in the early 50s brought about. Was it really so terrible in the context of the greater history?
I doubt it.
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