Submitted by upyoars t3_zxuefe in Futurology
BigCommieMachine t1_j2337zh wrote
Reply to comment by the_zelectro in One of the world's largest lasers could be used to detect alien warp drives by upyoars
I mean the whole issue here is if an alien species is so advanced to develop warp drives, certainly masking it wouldn’t be an issue.
That has always been my beef is UFOs…etc. You’re telling me life forms that are so advanced that they can intergalactically travel in a space craft the size of a small aircraft, but they can’t develop a better method of surveillance or stealth than flying around noticeably in airspace.
LittleKittyLove t1_j23rdm6 wrote
Fast forward 8 billion years. Earth heroically united to survive humanities existential crisis. Technology progressed until humans are cyborg gods. We are a many planet, post scarcity civilization.
A few million light years from earth, there is a galactic zoo planet called “Burf.” Burf was formed by humanity a couple billion years ago, as a sort of nature retreat. It was set to a nice temperature, seeded with some basic life, and left to sprout.
Burf is a wonderful planet. Life forms like to warp in, and work remote from its many beautiful vantage points. They watch waterfalls, and arctic storms. Float above the primitive ape cities, and casually follow their emerging stories.
Of course, we keep an eye on the apes to see if they will pass the great filter. After all, we don’t want to rescue a malevolent dying race and start an intergalactic war. Again.
If the primitive apes can realize that they are all stuck on the same lifeboat and come together for future generations, we will happily accept them into the galactic fold. If they succumb to violence and greed, we will let nature take its course, and perhaps help Burf recover from whatever stain they leave behind.
Sometimes our kind interacts with the apes. Frequently, it’s by accident, by getting too close. Sometimes, it is avid fans of the Ape Story, deliberately interjecting themselves to warn the apes that they’ll go extinct if they aren’t careful, or floating above their nuclear weapons, shining a bright red light on them to say “this is a bad idea.”
We’ve even had a few accidents out around Not Vegas involving intoxicants and bright neon lights. But we are not supposed to interfere, and to let the great filter do it’s work on Burf.
the_zelectro t1_j2349sf wrote
Masking a mothership might be an issue, especially on the scale discussed here.
The equations for reaching a fraction of the speed of light are fairly simple (specifically, without considering warp-drive techniques). Building a working system is undoubtedly complex, but it's chiefly a game of attaining the required energy.
Cloaking a large stellar object so that it's invisible is a much more difficult task. There still might be ways, but spacetime should see clear warping at the given masses and velocities.
Lord_Nivloc t1_j23i380 wrote
Well, if LIGO is detecting it, I’m not sure how they could hide. That would imply their warp drive created gravitational waves / ripples in the fabric of spacetime
jhev1 t1_j24qcvz wrote
That's very similar to what I say, why would they have to mutilate cattle and anally probe people? If they can get here they can probably tell everything they need to from orbit. The don't need to stick something up our ass or mutilate some helpless animals.
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