Submitted by [deleted] t3_zmpqjt in Futurology
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Submitted by [deleted] t3_zmpqjt in Futurology
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Don't worry, climate change won't kill ALL. If you destroy 80% of human population, the virus causing the issues will be gone and the symptoms will decline. It will take a long time. Migration wars will come. But 100% of people won't die. There will be areas where living is easier. Remember that humans were once wiped out to around 1000 specimens and we're back to 8bn now. So, even if 1000 people survive in a group, it's possible to spring back.
Take a few deep breaths and go do something outside.
You literally just said even if we stopped now, the issue could take a 1000 years to fix itself. So, as someone who does care (in the little part I can do), why bother? Who cares? If there is nothing we can do, might as well ride out what we can. Yes, lots of people will die, and yes, only the rich will survive. Not points of pride or anything, just facts. Not much any of us can do to change that. Really, nothing we can do short of development of technology that doesn't exist yet in the hopes of reversing damage.
Why not worry? Don't you give a shit about the people who WILL die? Isn't it worth sacrificing a few of our excessive comforts so that millions won't die?
If you're too selfish for this, just say so. Or maybe you just did idk.
Nah, Humans will extinct themselves before that even happens.
50 years of Eco doomsday that did not come true - I think we will be ok - https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/
Climate change is a very difficult problem and will cause many deaths, but it won't kill us all. Your title is clickbait and your post is catastrophizing.
When faced with a difficult problem, a smart person does not throw their hands up and moan and wail. They look the problem in the face and take steps to overcome it. Rational problem solving combined with a strong desire to survive is the light that will lead us forward, just like it always has.
While there is an outside that you can walk into ? :)))) They are right you know 🤷♂️
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What do you sacrifice?
No no, we need more of this kind of outrage.
I would love it if millions died. If i could Thanos snap, i would snap away 5.8bn at first chance.
Ah, a child. Got it. Blocked.
To be clear, I don't disagree with OP. But OP working themselves up into a panic about it isn't very helpful. The challenge for most of us is that there isn't really much we can do (or know to do) that's impactful bottoms-up. We need a viable top down plan from our leadership if anything useful is ever going to change. OP should take a few deep breaths and go do something outside.
I disagree. In fact, one of the best things to curb climate change would be a climate version of the French Revolution globally.
Thing is, all the capability to fix climate change already exists. The problem is that all the solutions are incompatible with the "growth at any cost" mentality that most businesses have, since that "growth at any cost" mentality is the core of the problem in the first place. All those at the top are trying to figure out ways to fix climate change in ways that don't damage their bottom line, which just isn't possible. Fixing climate change requires us all to tighten our belts a bit and live a little less high off the hog, and take time to update & improve what we've already made rather than breakneck making more.
We need to make decisions that don't align with business interests, and we aren't going to do that as long as the decision makers are aligned with businesses.
This is what turns everyone off from caring about it. When everything is going to kill you and doom and gloom, people quit caring. I have a lot of left wing political views but the doom and gloom is too much sometimes. Fear based politics kill me.
So, yeah, bottoms-up we should all revolt and overthrow the global experiment in unfettered capitalism backed by all of our major world governments who have well armed and trained police forces. All of us should be willing to throw away the system that puts food on our tables and roofs over our head in hopes we can accomplish something revolutionary, without a unifying organizer or even a clear articulatable goal state. This is what I'm saying. You're not wrong in one regard, but this isn't actually a viable plan to organize around. I'm all for solutions but they won't happen at the individual-up level. There needs to be a catalyzing, viable plan with top-down leadership to create the type of momentum needed to literally change the entire world order.
There is the WW2 Swedish way.
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