Submitted by Gari_305 t3_zuz2k6 in Futurology
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micktalian t1_j1m41ba wrote
Iirc, there are actually plants which specifically pick up certain metals from soil to such a degree that the processed plant material can be used for refining. If we really went down the route of bioengineering we could probably "create" (or modify) a form of cytobacteria with the genes to process the target minerals into an "organic ore" which can be processed into usable material.
FuturologyBot t1_j1m5hag wrote
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From the Article
>Engineers at the University of California, Irvine said microbes could help colonize the Moon and Mars. Inspired by the cyanobacteria that acquire nutrients from rocks in Chile’s Atacama Desert, they also see the findings as a step toward employing microorganisms in large-scale 3D printing or additive manufacturing at a scale suitable for civil engineering in challenging locations such as the Moon and Mars.
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>As mentioned by the university, high-resolution electron microscopy and cutting-edge spectroscopic imaging methods were used by researchers from the Departments of Materials Science and Engineering at UC Irvine and Johns Hopkins University to gain a thorough understanding of how microorganisms modify both naturally occurring minerals and artificial nanoceramics.
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Ph0enixRuss3ll t1_j1mchwe wrote
I'm a globalist; not a nationist. I'm not feeling xenophobia for imaginary Luna colonies but I just don't want people to be thinking murder this earth ecosystem and leave it is an option.
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Lautheris t1_j1mtubn wrote
And yet sadly the people in charge are going to end up making that the only option.
Ph0enixRuss3ll t1_j1mu5im wrote
There's got to be a way to organize peaceful revolution. End this hateful republic; start a true democracy.
2xw t1_j1mwti2 wrote
Its not an option and it never has been and never will be. It's human grandeur to believe we can destroy life on Earth - it will become uninhabitable for humans far before we have the chance to do that.
Ph0enixRuss3ll t1_j1mxjop wrote
I just hope I don't ever see a nuclear war. The fact that a handful of madmen could very possibly destroy the planet gives me anxiety.
jamesbideaux t1_j1mz2iv wrote
a nuclear war would not really destroy the planet, not any more than cyanobacteria did.
2xw t1_j1n20kx wrote
Again - that's human grandeur. Nuclear weapons would end human life on earth, not all life completely. If it helps ease your anxiety, if you ever do see nuclear war it'll be over pretty quickly!
ThePirateThief t1_j1n26h3 wrote
Thanks for mentioning this, definitely going to look into this further if only because the concept of "organic ore" plants sounds awesome to implement in my fantasy world building.
mhornberger t1_j1n5b6g wrote
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomining
- https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1360138598012837
Plants, fungi, and microbes have all been used.
Ph0enixRuss3ll t1_j1n637t wrote
Calm down with your cockroach pride. The end of all human life as a result of the insanity of a handful of tyrants: pretty terrifying possibility.
phoenix1984 t1_j1n89a6 wrote
So like Tiberium from the Command and Conquer series?
barbarkbarkov t1_j1nocof wrote
That sci-fi levels of cool
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ShutUpAndEatWithMe t1_j1nzoxd wrote
Cytobacteria? Or cyanobacteria?
Cyanobacteria can be cultivated in waste and sea waters and have been engineered to create loads of materials. They've also been cultivated in wastewater to take out excess nitrogen before processing. Other bacteria have been engineered to grab onto precious metals in industrial waste waters. There's a lot of promise but it's just a matter of 1) securing dependable funding, 2) managing organisms with recombinant DNA, and 3) translating lab results into the real world
micktalian t1_j1o0o0t wrote
Not gona lie, my degree is is PoliSci, not Biology or Chemistry, so Im not the best when it comes to accurately using specific terminology. You are absolutely right, I did mean cyanobacteria, thats my bad.
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Personally, my goal is ensure that people much smarter than me have access to the funding they need so that they can properly manage their organisms/experiments and can work towards producing real world results. I may not be the person to figure any of this out, but I will certainly do what I can to support them.
ThePirateThief t1_j1o1g9p wrote
You're awesome, thank you!
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jjburroughs t1_j1p508j wrote
Most politicians distrust science. The general public does not understand science and why these things matter.
I agree that funding needs to be put towards this avenue of science. However, it isnt me who needs to be convinced. Its the public and the corporations that run and lobby everything.
drdoom52 t1_j1pejqo wrote
So.... basically "Tiberium"?
Doktor_Earrape t1_j1pmkaq wrote
More importantly, it can help us transition away from destructive and exploitative forms of mineral extraction here on earth
intellifone t1_j1rhtxo wrote
At some point we’re going to have to decide that we’re done studying a “pristine” Mars and that we want to transform it. Bio-engineered bacteria will be the way. We probably need to take a kitchen sink approach and engineer something that eats iron oxides and spews CO2 or Oxygen. We’ll also need something that eats perchlorate too. And then we just fly drones all around the planet dumping it out. We probably want to drop lots of activates carbon all over the poles to make them warmer.
I’m sure there will be quicker and easier terraforming methods in the future but we’re not there yet and if we never get there, these could at least make Mars less inhospitable.
Gari_305 OP t1_j1m1uck wrote
From the Article
>Engineers at the University of California, Irvine said microbes could help colonize the Moon and Mars. Inspired by the cyanobacteria that acquire nutrients from rocks in Chile’s Atacama Desert, they also see the findings as a step toward employing microorganisms in large-scale 3D printing or additive manufacturing at a scale suitable for civil engineering in challenging locations such as the Moon and Mars.
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>As mentioned by the university, high-resolution electron microscopy and cutting-edge spectroscopic imaging methods were used by researchers from the Departments of Materials Science and Engineering at UC Irvine and Johns Hopkins University to gain a thorough understanding of how microorganisms modify both naturally occurring minerals and artificial nanoceramics.