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[deleted] t1_j1gfdxf wrote

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cnnrduncan t1_j1gwc9l wrote

Because subjecting people (who may potentially be falsely convicted) to harmful medical testing is fucked up. There's a reason that the groups of Nazis and Imperial Japanese that experimented on unwilling subjects are considered to be some of the most fucked up parts of ww2.

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[deleted] t1_j1gwtdq wrote

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cnnrduncan t1_j1gxehg wrote

How about Elmer Jackson or the countless other black men that the yanks lynched after falsely accusing them of rape and other crimes?

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Michiberto t1_j1gxkqf wrote

We could go all day about this. Your guilt shit trip is not convincing. Modern forensics. And you're bringing up crap that was done where there were none.

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cnnrduncan t1_j1h0lxb wrote

Lmao how is it "guilt trip shit" to say that we maybe shouldn't be subjecting people to unconsentual medical experiments. You're on some fascist shit my dude.

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Marston_vc t1_j1hd7nk wrote

Such bullshit. People get wrongfully convicted all the time even today. Use google more.

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Herbacult t1_j1gmn9e wrote

Well you can’t pick and choose inmates to subject to cruel and unusual punishment. Surely an innocent person might be subjected to such an experiment.

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SmokierTrout t1_j1halzv wrote

Plenty of reasons this is not a good idea.

There are no where near enough rapists and pedophiles to conduct enough clinical studies on. The US prison population is 2.3 million, of which a small fraction will be convicted rapists or pedophiles. By contrast, 111 million mice and rats are killed in US laboratories every year. So before long you'd get pressure to expand which prisoners can experimented upon and then which crimes result in a custodial sentence.

Second, for many drug trials you need to inflict a condition to see how the drug effects that condition. That is, every year loads of mice are given cancer to see if a drug is effective at treating that cancer. Not that many rapists in jail with lung cancer.

Thirdly, when testing drugs you need to properly test on a representative sample of the population. Otherwise you get skewed results. This is already a problem for women, especially pregnant women. Very little testing has done on them, so out knowledge of how drugs effect women is much more limited and can often lead to adverse health outcomes for women. Using prisoners, who are mostly male, would only exacerbate this problem.

Overall it's a terrible idea that is focused primarily on punishment of prisoners, not on rigorous clinical trials and good science.

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