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PuzzBat9019 t1_izdv9y0 wrote

Reply to comment by berlinparisexpress in Big Tech is laying staff off, but climate tech is hiring by berlinparisexpress

I sometimes worry this might be a solution that doesn't really address the root of the problem. Like it's the neo-liberalisation of the climate movements.

If we are worried about the environment shouldn't we be looking to economic models that don't rely on exponential growth and over-consumption. But these solutions don't feed into the business of tech. Interested in your thoughts though, thanks for sharing.

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berlinparisexpress OP t1_izdvpls wrote

>If we are worried about the environment shouldn't we be looking to economic models that don't rely on exponential growth and over-consumption.

I 100% agree with that and I think the main focus should be on sobriety, fast.

However, SOME tech will be needed, even in the context of a low-carbon sustainable society. How do we stay under the 2°C trajectory while maintaining a decent quality of life for everyone?

I'm no techno evangelist and I think there will be a LOT of bullshit to call out in climate tech, but some of it will be very welcome. For instance, having small, local, reliable and sustainable energy generation projects, or keeping our advances in medicine and agriculture while living with limited energy resources.

Definitely a lot to think about but I'd rather see brains working on that that developing the latest financial market algorithm for those sweets 0.00001 second automated transactions.

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tickleMyBigPoop t1_izfofy5 wrote

Exponential growth isn't a problem, as technology and effincy improves guess what you get.....growth.

also laughs in africa and the rest of the developing world they could give a shit less what westerners think.

So the obvious solution would be......a carbon tax.

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IH4v3Nothing2Say t1_izhu4wr wrote

Yes, a carbon tax is a great solution, but we the people have a hard enough time as it is to convince the deniers/brainwashed into realizing that climate change is a real threat. So, they not only don’t support us, but sometimes fight us.

We need time that we don’t have, so I feel like this is a great backup option of dumping money and efforts into improving our situation, educating the public, and providing cheaper and better options to finally force the hands of the greedy elite.

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PuzzBat9019 t1_izix9dp wrote

Yeah I agree, they tried to implement a carbon tax in France, and it resulted in the yellow vest movement. Working class people don't appreciate being told they will be taxed for need based consumption when the wealthy are creating huge emissions.

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Lostraveller t1_ize78r5 wrote

Exactly. The apocolypse is less threatening to capitalism than stopping the apocolypse. thats all there is to it.

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