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6GoesInto8 t1_j1t1n5m wrote

Reply to comment by atrophy1999 in Soaring fertilizer prices could see millions more undernourished by Vucea

I wonder how much meat could be removed from the American diet without needing any replacement but still keeping the person healthy? For me it is at least 50%. At least half of the meat I eat is for pleasure over nutrition.

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[deleted] t1_j1t55z1 wrote

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6GoesInto8 t1_j1t5zom wrote

Whelp, your logic is clear and irrefutable, off to Cuba. Do they accept bot refugees?

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myplushfrog t1_j1t8fzq wrote

Their comment is hilarious lol omg. I don’t need to move to Cuba to eat rice, milk and flour. They are insanely cheap here, far more so than meat.

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6GoesInto8 t1_j1ta4rn wrote

I started to write a counter argument to some of their points but it was so easy I was worried it was some sort of trap. Maybe trying to steer the conversation towards sanctions or something? That's probably not true, but their argument feels intentionally absurd.

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Tuggerfub t1_j1td64j wrote

You're not making sense.

Have you seen cuban sandwiches? These people love meat.

How about you advocate for the US to stop erroneously sanctioning Cuba and making trade a nightmare for them instead? Think about it in the context of what it took for Russia to receive relatively modest sanctions.

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RadialSpline t1_j1u35im wrote

To put some context on that point: when the Communist revolution deposed Bautista in 1959 they [the revolutionaries] nationalized a lot of American business assets, and many of the “upper crust” of people in Bautista’s orbit fled as refugees to the US and they [the refugees] along with the businesses that had assets nationalized lobbied the fuck out of the government to impose those sanctions, and continue to lobby to keep those same sanctions in place until their grievances are “properly addressed” to their liking.

Also totally doesn’t help that the powers that be in the US really don’t want even a semi-functional socialistic/communistic government to exist.

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RadialSpline t1_j1u2ixc wrote

For one, Non parle Espagnol.

For two, I don’t exactly have the resources (cash-in-hand) to get to Cuba.

For three, why the fuck would I have to move to Cuba in order to not eat as much meat? I can eat less meat here (and very slightly reduce the demand for meat while doing so) just as well where I currently live.

Four, from an energy transfer standpoint eating plants directly is an order of magnitude more efficient than raising plants for a “middle cow” to eat then I eat the cow.

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