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Irate_Alligate1 t1_iyh6y4j wrote

Reply to comment by Butwinsky in Musk announces human trial of Neuralink chips in six months. by MINE_exchange

>but once these things are safe and effective

>After the death of 15 of 23 test subjects

Don't hold your breath

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Butwinsky t1_iyh7g07 wrote

Eh. I'm sure no one aced heart transplants or pacemakers 1st try either. I hate it for the monkeys, but if a bunch of monkeys have to die so some kid born a few years from now can see or some paraplegic can walk again? Sorry monkeys.

Animal testing leads to animal deaths. Now, whether or not the monkeys were treated with cruelty is another issue.

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Irate_Alligate1 t1_iyh7nvi wrote

The claims are about animal cruelty, don't know why you're shilling here but stop.

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Butwinsky t1_iyh7y76 wrote

I'm not shilling, youre in futurology mate, this is looking at where neuralink can take us. If you're good with animal cruelty with farm animals for the sake of eating a bacon cheeseburger but draw the line at testing if saving/changing medical procedures on monkeys, you're probably a self-righteous hypocrite.

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Irate_Alligate1 t1_iyh83uk wrote

Ah yeah. A shill.

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MarwyntheMasterful t1_iyhpwrm wrote

Everyone one of your posts I’ve seen here are of the lowest degree. Your not even trying to have a conversion. Get off you Elon hate boner and discuss the future.

Was your mom Mrs Bouche? “Elon Musk is the devil!!!” 😈

I bet that ppl volunteer to be tested on. Ppl love putting metal in their head/faces.

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Irate_Alligate1 t1_iyhrb9s wrote

Oh you're so mad lol

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MarwyntheMasterful t1_iyhrzg5 wrote

Mad? Lol. What’s to be mad about? I’m just laughing at some of your asinine responses.

This is a sub for discussing the future. I’m sure there is a sub for hating Elon for you to post in and get more positive feedback.

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GlowGreen1835 t1_iyh7m0b wrote

I'm no Musk fan, but people have been hurt or killed for many inventions that are in widespread use today.

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Irate_Alligate1 t1_iyh81pf wrote

You're not a fan but you're making excuses for him

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mediocreplayer_ t1_iyh8ydk wrote

You don't have to like someone to come to their defense when it makes sense. This tech is probably bound to be developed at some point. Someone's just gotta do it.

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Irate_Alligate1 t1_iyh9v1r wrote

Except you deliberately ignored the vital points to make your claim.

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tanrgith t1_iyhhaow wrote

The source of those numbers are from an activist group. That's kinda like trusting green peace to tell the truth

If there are other, actually trustworthy, sources who have independently verified those claims, then I'll believe it

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Scared-Conflict-653 t1_iyhtvo7 wrote

Exactly like the company that is producing, the product. They have no reason to lie.

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redingerforcongress t1_iyhwo5z wrote

This number isn't from the activist group though, it's from the corporate public relations team trying to bump their failed program.

Heaps of dead test subjects, but they cherrypick one group that had an abnormally high survival rate [perhaps the control subjects; installation but no functionality?]

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redingerforcongress t1_iyhwiv1 wrote

The numbers are from corporate public relations teams pushing misinformation regarding the survival rate

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Irate_Alligate1 t1_iyhhubt wrote

Somehow I doubt you'll accept any evidence that counters your opinion.

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tanrgith t1_iyhid7u wrote

Well, you're wrong on that

edit - Actually, you're right. Because my opinion is literally just "I don't really trust some small activist group lead by a guy accused of cherry picking data, so I'd want to see the claim verified by a reputable source before believing it"

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Irate_Alligate1 t1_iyhixwp wrote

You won't ever accept any evidence that contradicts your hard-held beliefs.

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tanrgith t1_iyhj81k wrote

That's what I said, yes.

My "hard-held beliefs" in this case being "have a reputable source verify it and I'll believe it"

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Irate_Alligate1 t1_iyhjrxr wrote

No, you won't.

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tanrgith t1_iyhsxmc wrote

You know, somehow I doubt you'll accept any evidence that counters your opinion

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Irate_Alligate1 t1_iyhtdfd wrote

What evidence?

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tanrgith t1_iyhtppr wrote

Damn, that either went way over your head or you're just being purposefully obtuse

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redingerforcongress t1_iyhwh8h wrote

That's the best group too; the survival rate is closer to 2% outside this very specific group

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