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Kinexity t1_ixvn4vn wrote

Reply to comment by DukeBeefpunch in Nvidia has created a text-to-3D generative-AI that will allow people to make high-resolution 3D models from just text prompts. by lughnasadh

Yes, you are crafting. If you just generate an image and without anything else you say it's art then it's not because there was no artistic intent. But if you choose between images, tweak those generated, change parameters then the AI is just a tool which let's you express a vision you have in your mind. The effective image will be art because you had an artistic intent. Not everyone is manually skilled enough to be able to express their idea by their own hands. I can't draw for shit but I know how to use some simpler image editing software and can run Stable Diffusion so I can make art of my own. I will not claim it's comparable to works of normal artists but it is art nonetheless.

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DukeBeefpunch t1_ixw1yyd wrote

Not everyone is manually skilled enough.....That's why you go through the process of learning! That applies to literally everything in life. If you want to express your idea in art than it should drive you to practice enough to do it and not to buy a shortcut to skill.

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Kinexity t1_ixw39dh wrote

Tell engineers they should carve metal parts by hand instead of using CNC mills. Not everyone has time or skill to learn how to draw. Your comment is pure neo-luddism.

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DukeBeefpunch t1_ixw4uds wrote

Tell me what engineering has to do with culture? That's mathematics. That's business. Business is not culture. We aren't talking about a product that needs efficiency and speed we are talking about art. Using a program to look at pre existing art for you, conceptualize for you, execute for you is essentially plagerism you just don't know who it is you've plagerized en masse so there's no guilt.

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Kinexity t1_ixw6uhk wrote

Well, I just want to point out to you that you've just described most of non AI art that is being created today but you wouldn't say that an artist learning from works of other is plagiarizing, would you? AI isn't going to take away the ability to create from human artists - it's just going to give the ability to create to people not as talented. The final goal is to automate everything such that work is no longer neccesary. This will mean that there will be a period where many people will not be able to do the thing they want for profit but after that they'll get to do all that without worrying about being profitable - and that includes artists. Engineering has nothing do with culture just like making money has nothing to with creating art. Making money is bussiness and

>Business is not culture

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zachster77 t1_ixw7jem wrote

You’re 100% right. People disagreeing with you don’t understand the creative generative process.

And the reality is that AI will be coming for many jobs that used to be considered creative. If humans had meaningful work lined up to replace those jobs, it’d be one thing. But all we have is low wage commoditized service jobs that can’t yet be automated.

Bleak.

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blizardfires t1_ixxfnta wrote

These people all seem to think the gains of AI will be distributed equitably so we can all have better lives. That’s just not how free market capitalism works.

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zachster77 t1_ixxg5co wrote

Definitely. Though we don’t really know how it would work in free market capitalism. We’re so caught up in crony capitalism we can’t even see the corruption.

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blizardfires t1_iy0e99j wrote

>in crony capitalism we can’t even see the corruption.

True

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