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an_oddbody t1_ixvn9ny wrote

This is not AI this is Maching learning. Please don't confuse the two. One uses brute force calculations and training, the other uses logical reasoning and understanding. They are very different.

Edit: Gotta love getting downvoted for presenting facts 😕

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B0risTheManskinner t1_ixvur7l wrote

Is machine leaning not a type of AI?

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an_oddbody t1_ixwfe3u wrote

Nope, totally separate. Even Generative Adversarial Networks, a more advanced and powerful form of machine learning, would be incomparable to true AI.

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__ingeniare__ t1_ixwthah wrote

Machine learning is a subfield of AI, which you could've easily checked if you bothered to google it before confidently asserting it isn't.

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hara8bu t1_ixwvhqa wrote

Can you define “understanding”?

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an_oddbody t1_ixxijnr wrote

This is probably not what you were hoping to hear, but there is currently a lot of debate about what it would mean for an AI to have true "understanding" as we know it. I have used it here to loosely mean having having a functional recognition of the laws of the world that the AI is exposed to. This means that by observing the world around it, it could apply these laws and be able to make reasonable predictions about the state of that world, make connections about the relationships of the states of various objects, and generally be able to asses how systems based on those laws operate.

Some people will say "Oh, but there's the Turing Test, right?" And yes, that's true. But the turing test only checks the degree of confidence people have that they are interacting with an understanding being. The program may have a 20-minute conversation about a variety of topics without truly understanding any of the topics. Just like how I can have a convincing 20-minute conversation with my in-laws about football, despite having no idea what any of the rules of football are. The program and I simply know what words to put together to seem natural.

Quanta magazine has some great articles that touch on the complexity of this issue. If you have some time, I reccomend checking them out.

What Does It Mean for AI to Understand?

Machines Beat Humans on a Reading Test. But Do They Understand?

And there are others, but these should be quite approachable.

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hara8bu t1_ixy6zt7 wrote

Follow-up questions: how do you define narrow AI? (ANI) and is ANI a form of AI?

It sounds like you believe AI = Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) ONLY. And because we are nowhere near AGI now, and you are talking about “what it would mean for an AI to have …” you are starting from different assumptions than the rest of the world and probably won’t have an easy time discussing AI with anyone.

So, if we replace the “AI” in your comments with “AGI”, then yes, I agree with your below definition of “understanding”. Thank you.

> I have used it here to loosely mean having having a functional recognition of the laws of the world that the AI is exposed to. This means that by observing the world around it, it could apply these laws and be able to make reasonable predictions about the state of that world, make connections about the relationships of the states of various objects, and generally be able to asses how systems based on those laws operate.

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Zuli_Muli t1_ixxla7k wrote

I up voted you. This is a pet peeve of mine as well.

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