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AunderscoreW t1_ixh5h8v wrote

Reply to comment by proarnis1 in How to test if we’re living in a computer simulation by izumi3682

How so? At what point does something cross from looking real enough to being real?

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proarnis1 t1_ixh5rpz wrote

We already reached the point where it looks real, but we are at 0 when it comes to simulating emotions 1 thing that makes us human.

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izumi3682 OP t1_ixj0g33 wrote

I beg to differ. Animals have the emotions of affection, fear, envy and loyalty and probably some others I can't think of offhand. Emotions are derived from biological imperatives. I don't think that they will be difficult to simulate. I put it like this once. What might be difficult to simulate is phenomenology that arises from consciousness. But heck, in 20 years we'll probably lick that problem too.

https://www.reddit.com/user/izumi3682/comments/9786um/but_whats_my_motivation_artificial_general/

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proarnis1 t1_ixk32x9 wrote

Animals or humans doesnt matter i said human because we are humans who cares about animals on this topic considering even right now AI uses human created resources not animal created resources. Also by saying "in 20 years we gnn solve this" u dont realize that we may eventually reach a cap on technology and probably will be stuck for 50+ years using same things without creating something new till someone invents something that will revolutionize AI so we can continue solving this.

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izumi3682 OP t1_ixkchde wrote

I think there is a small chance that you are right, but a far more vast chance that you are wrong. I don't think anything is going to "cap" any longer. No more AI winters ever again. Further, this is the reason I am fairly confident that a 'human unfriendly' (that is the computing and computing derived AI will be external from the human mind) "technological singularity" is going to occur about the year 2029, give or take two years.

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