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isleepinahammock t1_ix8nytq wrote

At first, I thought "good for them." Then after reading the article, damn. Fuck everything about this.

They "adopted" the embryo from the National Embryo Donation Center. This organization cares more about bigotry than they do about their own stated mission. They want to help "unborn children" and help couples who can't conceive have kids. But that only applies if you're a straight cisgender couple. Two men can't adopt an embryo to be used with a surrogate. A cisgender man married to a transgender woman aren't welcome.

In other words, they are explicitly discriminating against some of the demographics that could most readily "adopt" the embryos they have in storage. People who could offer good and loving homes, but just happen to not be straight and cisgender.

Helping unborn children is important, but bigotry comes first.

Fuck the lot of these assholes.

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moogs_writes t1_ix8pizw wrote

They’re a Christian organization, not surprised. However, the fact they won’t involve themselves with surrogacy or people with a history of mental health issues isn’t controversial in and of itself. A trans woman can’t gestate an embryo, and these embryos are only adopted to couples who will be able to carry them themselves, and not just baby buyers who found creative uses for their wealth. Surrogacy is messy and complicated even somewhere like the us where it’s heavily regulated and only altruistic surrogacy is allowed.

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isleepinahammock t1_ix8vmmc wrote

The surrogacy argument is a red herring. They also don't let lesbian couples adopt. They explicilty discriminate against people.

And don't let them co-opt the term "Christian." They're bigots that just happen to be Christian. There are plenty of churches flying pride flags.

And while surrogacy is legally complex, so is the entire thing they're doing. They're taking embryos from one couple and gestating them in another. The whole operation has to involve lawyers with experience in fertility law. Bringing LGBT people into the mix isn't anything more complex than what they're already doing.

They're bigots, pure and simple. They claim they want to help unborn children, and maybe they do. But for them, the absolute highest priority is bigotry. Everything else is secondary.

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moogs_writes t1_ix8wkek wrote

For them, bigotry. For others, money. Baby factories are, in fact, messy and often unethical in all sorts of ways. I’m not going to pick and choose. This organization is wrong to refuse to allow gay couples to adopt on the basis of homophobia. Gay couples are wrong to exploit vulnerable women half the world over on the basis of it being cheaper to get a baby from them there.

Either way, I don’t lose sleep over people who can afford the money they give to baby factories, because it just perpetuates the problem. Gay, lesbian, white, cis or not.

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Upstairs-Wheel-8995 t1_ixa98z5 wrote

Deal with it. It’s viewed as a sin in their religion. Go somewhere else if you don’t like it.

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isleepinahammock t1_ixaaynq wrote

Of course, and part of that is informing others of their practices. You have a right to your own religious beliefs. You don't have a right to avoid the consequences of your actions.

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Upstairs-Wheel-8995 t1_ix8w6vr wrote

You clearly failed biology… you need a uterus for this… ffs. Men don’t have that…

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tarrox1992 t1_ix96iz2 wrote

Lesbians are also prevented from “adopting.”

>Two men can't adopt an embryo to be used with a surrogate.

And that line addresses any relevant statement in your unnecessary comment.

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Upstairs-Wheel-8995 t1_ixa91eh wrote

Go to a different place then. You act as if there’s only one in the entire world.

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tarrox1992 t1_ixandsf wrote

You’re putting thoughts and words into my mouth and mind that aren’t mine.

I only refuted your comment, I apologize if that caused you any unnecessary exertion in moving your goalposts.

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