Submitted by Gari_305 t3_z0jodc in Futurology
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[deleted] t1_ix6i5iy wrote
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ExLegeLibertas t1_ixhhjsa wrote
lol, thats not in the ruling class's interest, friend. sorry. we budgeted for more cops, though!
Gari_305 OP t1_ix5wr5d wrote
From the Article
>Lockheed Martin released new renderings showing a manned sixth-generation fighter aircraft as a notional stand-in design for the U.S. Air Force Next Generation Air Dominance program, or NGAD. The images were included in a media briefing about the company’s proposal for the KC-Y competition, the Airbus A330 MRTT-derived LMXT tanker. Interestingly, the images were released only to the media attending the briefing, but not on the company’s website or social medias.
HolyGig t1_ix6j1lu wrote
I'll be most curious to know its actual size. I bet it will be bigger than people think its going to be
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redditofmylife t1_ix6nj9h wrote
I know! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
alt4614 t1_ix6z7lr wrote
It certainly will be. More fuel (to push range to China or the upper atmosphere), more sensors and reconnaissance equipment, and a greater variety of armaments to deal with just about anything.
KidKilobyte t1_ix6mspp wrote
Really no point to building manned planes anymore. Drones can pull more g’s in a dog fight and don’t have to sacrifice aerodynamics to haul a vulnerable meat bag around.
redditofmylife t1_ix6oqrp wrote
Are dog fights still a thing? I think latency would also be quite disadvantageous for remote control. I imagine when AI is developed for future gen fighters we will have something of a dogfight between other counter AI controlled aircraft, but possibly at smaller scale? Fun to think of.
zxvasd t1_ix6shoh wrote
Probably counting onAI to counteract latency
thalassicus t1_ix9iquf wrote
Latency won't be an issue with modern software. A human at a stick will confirm a target and authorize live fire, but the actual radar lock and fire can be controlled by a computer onboard. Same with bombing runs which will be even easier since most bomb worthy targets aren't very mobile.
KronaSamu t1_ix6ymky wrote
Dog fights are not a thing anymore. Maned aircraft are still superior as they are not at risk of hacking or jamming unlike drones. Plus you don't have latency and you will have much more situational awareness being in the cockpit. The future of air combat is drones, but that's still a ways out. You will likely see things such as "loyal wingmen" long before there are completely unmanned righters
OffEvent28 t1_ixbf0kt wrote
"Loyal wingmen" in close proximity to the manned controller should be less vulnerable to jamming, and could even use laser communications to maintain complete radio silence. The mixture of manned and unmanned aircraft is definitely the next step.
Sp3llbind3r t1_ix7o6kq wrote
Drones are dangerous from the standpoint of jamming communications. And AI that anybody trusts to decide who to kill is still way off.
I don‘t see drones as a replacement for a fighter jet in closer range. But as mobile carrier for 100 miles range AA rockets? Sure, why not?
cotorshas t1_ixb94nt wrote
Dogfights and pulling Gs isn't relevant in modern combat. Dogfights are a thing of thr past and have been for decades. And Drones are simply not safe or secure enough at this point. What is being developed is drone wingmen, but we still need manned planes to control and support them.
FuturologyBot t1_ix60y2v wrote
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From the Article
>Lockheed Martin released new renderings showing a manned sixth-generation fighter aircraft as a notional stand-in design for the U.S. Air Force Next Generation Air Dominance program, or NGAD. The images were included in a media briefing about the company’s proposal for the KC-Y competition, the Airbus A330 MRTT-derived LMXT tanker. Interestingly, the images were released only to the media attending the briefing, but not on the company’s website or social medias.
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xXSpaceturdXx t1_ix6ln8e wrote
I remember building model airplanes as a kid and you could buy models for planes that were still top-secret. It seems like the model aircraft people always knew what was coming out before anybody else did back in the day. I’m curious if they have any six GEN fighter models that will come to fruition down the road as well.
7Moisturefarmer t1_ix6taiv wrote
“Manned”. Good luck with that.
Unmanned must be having difficulty with the G-forces on those 6 Gen manned fighters.
KronaSamu t1_ix6ysok wrote
G high force tolerance isn't that important anymore
First-Translator966 t1_ix6ersa wrote
Looks like the exhaust is hidden from underneath, which would make sense for hiding the heat signature.
Kid of a delta wing blended body design with no vertical stabilizer — speed, stealth and endurance while sacrificing maneuverability.
Everything is being built with an eye towards the pacific theater and China now, so this all makes sense. We need long range, fast aircraft to deal with the distances involved in combating China.
Sacrifice maneuverability for that and low observability.
Not a whole lot new here from my untrained eye… basically fits what everyone suspected.