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FishMichigan t1_iwwuljh wrote

There is no land use problem for solar. 45% of all acres of corn is in use for Ethanol. We'd need 7.5% of all corn acres for 10,000 sq miles of solar. If you want to blame high food prices on anything, blame ethanol. Lets be honest, you wouldn't put all the solar in the midwest and there is plenty of desert land in the west to power the left 1/3 of the USA.

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reid0 t1_iwxdxjl wrote

There’s also evidence that even having solar panels on grazing land is beneficial to the grazing animals and to the land itself by providing shaded areas and because moisture in the air accumulates on the panels and drips onto the earth below them.

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BBASPN69 t1_iwxn036 wrote

From what I'm read, it only really works for sheep grazing, since they're relatively tame while cows are too big and goats are too assholish, respectively, and pose a threat to panels.

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chin-ki-chaddi t1_iwxpvx9 wrote

The panels can be raised further to accomodate the cows, who will definitely not knock them down.

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leviwhite9 t1_iwxxr24 wrote

Yeah cows are just big dumb dogs.

If you can't design around those call me, certified country boy at your service.

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chin-ki-chaddi t1_iwxzccb wrote

It would be a paradise for cows, I tell you. Chilling around in the shade, eating grass, sipping the dew dripping from the steel frame.

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MMAwannabe t1_ix0t1jq wrote

"Solar Cowboys starts this Tuesday at 8PM on discovery"

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FM_103 t1_iwyp82p wrote

Spoken like someone who has no experience with cows.

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leviwhite9 t1_iwypqln wrote

Boy howdy would I sure surprise you then.

Ask away.

Born and raised on a 75-100 head farm in the Appalachians. Local stockyard had a catwalk above the whole operation.

Whatchu got?

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Ok-disaster2022 t1_iwxawno wrote

Ethanol corns aren't necessarily even edible for humans. Significant crops are grown for livestock feed anyway.

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Qbr12 t1_iwxwy5u wrote

Ethanol-bound corn crops might not be the tastiest, but they're far from inedible. Most of it is field corn, which is hard to process by the gut but can be eaten if ground up (such as in corn meal and corn flour).[1]

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JusticiarRebel t1_iwyip25 wrote

Even if it isn't tasty, does it matter? If the ethanol bound crop isn't being used for ethanol, you can grow another crop on that land. It's not like a mine where you can only extract the mineral that happens to exist there.

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Neumo500 t1_iwxpt5g wrote

No, corn is corn. There may be some gmo stuff to make it better for being turned into ethanol but it’s still edible

Edit: ethanol comes from field corn rather than sweet corn. It’s edible but doesn’t taste great, this is the stuff that gets heavily processed into stuff like corn syrup

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TimeToShineTonight t1_iwxm4jb wrote

Land use will be a hurdle for the Midwest. A solar project was recently defeated in northwest Ohio. Nimby'ism will be an issue when zoning board won't allow the land to be used for solar.

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FM_103 t1_iwyp4zg wrote

The greenest cheapest energy source is Nuclear Power.

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axecrazyorc t1_iwz0exe wrote

Even as someone who’s pro-nuclear that’s bullshit and you know it. Nuclear is nowhere near the cheapest, nor is it actually the greenest. It’s a far sight better than the vast majority and we’d collectively be a lot better off if the fossil fuel companies hadn’t funded bogus “studies” about it, but it’s not “the best.”

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FM_103 t1_ix1jqmk wrote

You do not sound pro nuclear to me.

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FM_103 t1_ix1jx6z wrote

Perhaps I can use a cleaner source than gas to nuclear light some where else.

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_ix0l6mm wrote

It must give a lot of confidence in nuclears when those that support it need to keep making up claims out of thin air and even setting bots to repeat inaccurate claims in order to promote it

nuclear had 70 years to change the world energy and got nowhere, renewables appeared disrupted the market and are changing the global energy sector at a breakneck pace despite all the opposition and the billions spent in propaganda and political payouts against them

renewables compete and beat fossil fuels handily despite the opposition, if nuclears could never compete against fossils they don't have a shred of chance against renewable energy

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FM_103 t1_ix1jmxi wrote

“Renewables compete and beat fossil fuels handily despite the opposition”, now who’s making up claims? The only way renewables can compete with coal burning power plants is through huge government subsidies. Modern nuclear power is the cheapest and greenest source of energy currently available that can compete with fossil fuels.

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_ix1ofp2 wrote

Any claims i make are easily verifiable, also fosil fuel is being subsidized too and so is nuclear

There is a reason why both fosil fuel companies and nuclears invest in renewables...along with everybody else, they are lower risk quicker returns than their own traditional sources

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