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Dicketarian t1_iwtsusv wrote

Lmao with all that’s seriously wrong with our food today, the idea that anyone here could celebrate something like this is beyond me. No amount of FDA certification will make me feel comfortable eating lab-grown meat.

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[deleted] t1_iwtwy1r wrote

The science deniers sub is somewhere else.

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Fun-Mail5667 t1_iwxepoy wrote

This is the problem with science right now. Maybe the person above kind of came too hard. As a scientist instead of putting them down, you address the concerns the person has and talk to them like a human being with the knowledge you have to educate them.

If you’ve read the FDA’s documents on the Upside cell line submission, there’s a lot of questions to the validity of all of this, which makes sense, as the FDA hasn’t signed off, they just don’t have questions at this time. This is the beginning. There has not been any approval or assessment of any product. Headline in the media are very misleading and the owner of twitters brother is an investor.

They’ve also been backing off, as has the whole industry, in the ability to scale. There were a lot of companies who made big claims about their tech and are now changing their names/rebranding quietly and staying scalability is “obviously years away”

Chastising ppl just because they come to strong with their assumed opinions is what created vaccine denial. Not dumb ppl. It’s the ppl with knowledge that chose to high brow ppl because they couldn’t explain the science and just wanted people to agree with them because…science is full of a bunch of smug assholes nowadays.

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Fun-Mail5667 t1_iwxexkr wrote

Also the language on immortalization is unclear and if they are using crispr, they should be subject to human clinical trials prior to any approval

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t0tezevadin t1_iwuk7c9 wrote

This is a cattlebrained take as the masses are poisoned by toxic food and endocrine disruptors the "science" said was safe.

The "science" is fallible human institutions relaying human opinions regarding things we readily admit we understand nothing about - the human body.

Enjoy your seed oils and be sure not to eat eggs, the cholesterol gives you a stroke or something. Trust the science, right?

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[deleted] t1_iwuzxfc wrote

Is this place getting flooded by crazy anti-gmo people or something?

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Dicketarian t1_iwtxbav wrote

Do you know a single thing about nutritional science? Do you know how inconsistent it is? Do you understand that, scientifically, we have a long way to go to fully understand how any of these things really impact the body?

I have a degree in neuroscience, and along with that degree came a healthy awareness for just how incomplete our understanding is when it comes to the body.

Also, you literally sound like a religious zealot. Actually study science and you will see it is not only rife with dissent, but dissent is encouraged in genuine scientific settings. It’s not pushed as some neo-religion like Redditors do. Because real science only works in a forum of free idea exchange, not this petty “if you don’t agree with the observations of another scientist then you are a science denier.” That’s what religious folk do.

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[deleted] t1_iwuoh3g wrote

I’m a specialized engineer, R&D nuclear/military/chemical.

Oh I agree with your skepticism, but your wording comes off as crazy. You could express healthy skepticism of this with much more tact, so I’m very surprised someone at your level has your grammar, which is rudimentary, so people are assuming you’re not very smart. It’s the subtext to your comments.

If you word more carefully, and stick to short specific skepticism, you’ll be received better. You criticized the progress of science in general, which is odd to do. Not specifically the uncertainty.

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milliAmpere14 t1_ixvvmuz wrote

I'm reading all this lab grown meat bullshit and all it sort of reminds me of is the whole 'madcow disease' business.

I don't think the supporters of tjis really realise just how precarious this path can be. We could start eating this bullshit and next thing you know, two to three generations later children are being born with more defects than any other time in human history. This shit could make people insane....

There is a natural order to life and how lifeforms get sustenance from nature. This should be approved only after a multigenerational study, spanning at least 60 years. The long term effects of this can be very very very precarious.

And the idiots that are just saying and preaching "science !! science !!", they are in my opinion being reductive (to put it mildly).

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Dicketarian t1_ixwnml9 wrote

Yep. You nailed it. And they act that way because science today is the new religion, which is exactly the opposite of what science is supposed to be. If you mock someone for dissenting against research, you are inherently not a scientist. Most of these people are uneducated sheep who just believe what the nightly news tells them.

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this_dudeagain t1_iwy24uh wrote

Lots of crazies have degrees.

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Dicketarian t1_iwy3pcc wrote

Wow, great argument. Really got me there lmao

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this_dudeagain t1_iwy4zrp wrote

Just waiting for you to start talking about vampires and werewolves.

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Dicketarian t1_iwy5ac9 wrote

Oh yes. Because having an opinion in science is the same as believing in monsters. Sure, I’m the crazy one. Your lack of scientific understanding is painfully obvious now.

Look, I’m not interested in arguing with religious zealots, so have a nice life.

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captainnoyaux t1_iwtud9w wrote

I don't know but most of the meat is grown in trash conditions and fed with bad stuf, yet you still eat thoses. It's extremely difficult and costly to get high quality meat (something that lives freely and not grain fed)

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Dicketarian t1_iwtuqql wrote

I’m all for reforming feed lots and the like, but you cannot compare a chicken on a bad diet to fake chicken. We have no idea what the consequences will be. Nutritional science is barely on top of their shit at all. We barely understand what the food we eat now really does on a whole system level.

Doctors have done literally nothing but negative shit to my body with the meds they gave me, when all I needed was a better diet. Something they still don’t understand…Like at all. But sure. Eat lab grown meat. You can be the Guinea pig on this one and I’ll just watch. I’ll go vegetarian before I eat this shit.

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captainnoyaux t1_ix7jge4 wrote

Yeah I understand what you are saying, it could be better and it could be worse too ! We'll need some research and trials to see how it affects us

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